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14th November Movement for Left Unity

Coolfonz said:
So even if you are actually a paid up member of any organisation you should be stopped from voting on motions - or proposing any - because you can't physically attend meetings? Even corporations' AGMs have more inclusivity, even UK elections allow postal votes...
`Left Unity wants to transform society, but you cant use the internet as it's a bit weird and the members might vote for something` is a good campaigning slogan...
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I'm pretty sure you were allowed to propose motions for LU's conferences even if you couldn't attend?
 
J Ed said:
The fact that he hasn't already been hounded out of the group speaks volumes
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This bloke used to work for the old Institute of Race relations as well. The labour party also appointed him head of Oldham Race Equality Partnership after the 2001 riots. He calls himself an anti-fascist. For real.
 
LEFT UNITY NEEDS TO BE SEEN TOMMOROW
The estab are more than likely behind this nazi march in london tommorow and the ukrainians are being used again to serve these nazis who are now dying to come out into the open
 
Tommorow in london they will be a march of people who wish to celebrate ALL ukrainian dead in wars. Unfortunatly it includes the fashcist forces who carried out some of the worst crimes in the whole of ww2 which included the rape torture and murder of women and children in lviv and kiev.
Similar to the crimes that were carried out in odessa and are being made in the donbass at the moment like injecting building foam uinto peoples arseholes and blowing up there intestines as a form of torture organised and payed for by you know who no doubt.
 
J Ed said:
The fact that he hasn't already been hounded out of the group speaks volumes
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seems unfair...if anything it speaks volumes as to how their democratic model takes longer in removing the eccentrics than a traditional hierarchical model - its not as if its taking time because the other members are busy deliberating on the issue
 
ska invita said:
seems unfair...if anything it speaks volumes as to how their democratic model takes longer in removing the eccentrics than a traditional hierarchical model - its not as if its taking time because the other members are busy deliberating on the issue
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He's no eccentric - he's quite central to it the north-west. And the point is about the loons it attracts, holds and promotes (or elects) anyway. And that table of motions and proposed amendments and how to deal with them is exactly the same as any other union or left-wing party set-up. It's neither more nor less democratic than any of them.
 
butchersapron said:
He's no eccentric - he's quite central to it the north-west.
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he sounds eccentric to me (i know what you mean of course). i guess until the party grows there'll be some small ponds that allow stranger fish the room to swim. i'll have to take your word on the rest of your post but my impression of internal democracy within the party is that its a healthy model and geared to avoid too much centralisation of power. I haven't got the time and energy to test and compare but i think the commitment to principle of bottom up democracy is there
 
butchersapron said:
He's no eccentric - he's quite central to it the north-west. And the point is about the loons it attracts, holds and promotes (or elects) anyway. And that table of motions and proposed amendments and how to deal with them is exactly the same as any other union or left-wing party set-up. It's neither more nor less democratic than any of them.
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And this (both points - the loons and the ritualistic proceduralism) were highlighted early on in the thread as reasons why LU would fail.
 
every party has loons - its not until membership grows to be more representative that the loons can be sidelined. all the major parties continue to have them, never mind the smaller groups. politics attracts outsiders

i missed it - why describe it as ritualistic proceduralism? whats wrong with good procedures?
 
left unity sounds to me like something being set up by the russel brands of this world and a few armchair bedroom boyz the unity is there and it never went away the days of the politician are over the people are awake and all the chemtrails and electronic pystronic control will do nothing and they cant shoot us all they are losing out on the global scale as well asthe domestic front many countries are no longer under control of the zionists to name a few BRAZIL INDONESIA ARGENTINA A REUNITED KOREA SOON BOLIVIA VENUZUELA FRANCE(DOON TO BREAK FREE)MOST OF AFRICA LATIN AMERICA MOST OF ASIA EVEN JAPAN WILL BREAK FREE SOON
 
weseethroughyou said:
left unity sounds to me like something being set up by the russel brands of this world and a few armchair bedroom boyz the unity is there and it never went away the days of the politician are over the people are awake and all the chemtrails and electronic pystronic control will do nothing and they cant shoot us all they are losing out on the global scale as well asthe domestic front many countries are no longer under control of the zionists to name a few BRAZIL INDONESIA ARGENTINA A REUNITED KOREA SOON BOLIVIA VENUZUELA FRANCE(DOON TO BREAK FREE)MOST OF AFRICA LATIN AMERICA MOST OF ASIA EVEN JAPAN WILL BREAK FREE SOON
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Oh do fuck off you moron
 
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