No it's not. PR is the opium of the lib-dem-labour-lefty-think-tank-researcher class.
It's not necessary. It's just another of your bubbles hobby horses.
there isn't a total vacuum in quite the same way - at last you have European left parties like Die Linke in countries with better electoral systems
With what result? Are greek workers happy now? Are the german workers screwed to the floor happy? What result?
There is, it just functions in a different way. In Germany governments have been formed and policies made by the same parties of centre left and centre right for about 70 years now. I could point to pretty similar patterns in Italy, Spain, Portugal, Austria and Belgium, with slight national variations.
they have some socialist TDs and MEPs at least - doing better than we are
It won't get a substantial vote in a general election with PR or FPTP. Can you explain to me why i have to explain this to you? Or, failing that (as if you would not answer a question!) tell me why PR might help a a progressive left party get a substantial vote in a general election please. And one more, what won't you join left-unity?
What evidence have you got that political representation for left-wingers in parliament improves ... well... anything? (There's at least as many socialists in the House of Commons btw, just not independent ones)
as i said, not sufficient... but would either want to swap for our system? I doubt it. Historically majoritarian systems have been supported by people like Mussolini's fascists or the orangmen in Ulster who have sought to manipulate popular representation to suppress any challenge from the left.
Nye Bevan achieved a thing or two
Don't forget 1945 articul8. Always in our hearts.
Errr... yes... as a left-wing member of a dominant centre left party elected under FPTP.
Is not sufficient a synonym for being shit? And here we go - if you don't share the lib-dem-labour-lefty-think-tank-researcher class' obsession then you're almost a fascist. Hey, you get your PR and the w/c get what? Weasel politician.
He's just a simple fascist organeman. Don't confuse him.
where did I say it was some kind of magic formula for success ( btw if Weimar had a FPTP system the Nazis could have come to power a couple of years ealier)
No they couldn't. ffs Tell us when. What year?
I notice your confident predictions of a NO vote leading opening a path towards an early split between the coalition parties has come to pass..
The prediction that never happened? Desperate dishonest stuff.I notice your confident predictions of a NO vote leading opening a path towards an early split between the coalition parties has come to pass..
