Thing is butchers, I could do much better. They just haven't used Paint to its full potential. There's no use of spray can for example.
14th November Movement for Left Unity
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Wasted opportunity. For shame.
revol68
what, fucking what?
is it me, or is this a bit
Yeah it sounds pretty bad...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
SpineyNorman
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AND A TRIANGLE BASED PYRAMID - THE WORST KIND!!!
STOP BEING A SHEEPLE SHILL FOR THE ILLUMINATI AND INVESTIGATE WTC BUILDING 7, THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS BS STARTED!!
STAND UP TO THE NWO, DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES OF THE ZIONIST MEDIA!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
received this. thought urbanites might like to comment:
"
Motion for Policy Conference
This conference believes:
1. That the Europe-wide capitalist crisis requires a Europe-wide working-class response.
2. That we should no more oppose European capitalist integration than we would oppose the merger of two companies, even though the bosses use mergers as an excuse to attempt job cuts and other attacks. When Britain plc merges into Europe plc, the answer is to link up with other European workers in solidarity and struggle.
3. That demanding withdrawal from the EU, or opposing British entry into the European single currency, is a British nationalist position which misidentifies the enemy as "Europe" rather than the ruling class.
4. The road to a Socialist United Europe is the road of responding to European capitalist unification by organising for cross-European workers' and socialist struggle. We advocate the following program for this struggle:
- Oppose all cuts; level up wages, services, pensions and workers' rights to the best across Europe;
- Tax the rich and expropriate the banks, Europe-wide;
- Scrap the EU's bureaucratic structures; for a European constituent assembly;
- Against a European defense force; for a Europe without standing armies or nuclear weapons;
- For a European workers' government.
5. In a referendum on British entry to the Euro, our position will be to advocate an active abstention and our slogans will be along the lines of "In or out, the fight goes on"; "Single currency - not at our expense"; and "For a Workers' Europe".
6. The upcoming European elections will be dominated by nationalist rhetoric around Europe, including attacks on migrant workers's rights and calls for harsher immigration controls. The left and labour movement must stand against this attempt to divide the working class, by fighting back against anti-migrant prejudice.
This conference resolves:
1. To organise public meetings promoting solidarity with workers and social movements across Europe
2. To organise meetings and actions in solidarity with Romanian, Bulgarian and other migrant workers.
3. To initiate a short statement setting out this position and circulate it around Britain and Europe for signatories.
4. To produce articles, pamphlets and leaflets setting out this position ahead of the European election.
"
"
Motion for Policy Conference
This conference believes:
1. That the Europe-wide capitalist crisis requires a Europe-wide working-class response.
2. That we should no more oppose European capitalist integration than we would oppose the merger of two companies, even though the bosses use mergers as an excuse to attempt job cuts and other attacks. When Britain plc merges into Europe plc, the answer is to link up with other European workers in solidarity and struggle.
3. That demanding withdrawal from the EU, or opposing British entry into the European single currency, is a British nationalist position which misidentifies the enemy as "Europe" rather than the ruling class.
4. The road to a Socialist United Europe is the road of responding to European capitalist unification by organising for cross-European workers' and socialist struggle. We advocate the following program for this struggle:
- Oppose all cuts; level up wages, services, pensions and workers' rights to the best across Europe;
- Tax the rich and expropriate the banks, Europe-wide;
- Scrap the EU's bureaucratic structures; for a European constituent assembly;
- Against a European defense force; for a Europe without standing armies or nuclear weapons;
- For a European workers' government.
5. In a referendum on British entry to the Euro, our position will be to advocate an active abstention and our slogans will be along the lines of "In or out, the fight goes on"; "Single currency - not at our expense"; and "For a Workers' Europe".
6. The upcoming European elections will be dominated by nationalist rhetoric around Europe, including attacks on migrant workers's rights and calls for harsher immigration controls. The left and labour movement must stand against this attempt to divide the working class, by fighting back against anti-migrant prejudice.
This conference resolves:
1. To organise public meetings promoting solidarity with workers and social movements across Europe
2. To organise meetings and actions in solidarity with Romanian, Bulgarian and other migrant workers.
3. To initiate a short statement setting out this position and circulate it around Britain and Europe for signatories.
4. To produce articles, pamphlets and leaflets setting out this position ahead of the European election.
"
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pro-eu. That's that then.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I think it was over long before this tbh.
Their position on Europe makes no difference either way.
The language used, issues identified and action proposed in this motion are far more damning than their being "pro-EU".
I note it's a motion, who from?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Point 4 is problematic and hyperbolic. How are you going to get rid of euro bureaucrats. And the EU operates through NATO or UN directive, militarily. It'd take some big potatoes to change that, cos currently NATO is what capital uses when the UN is deadlocked by non agreement.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I don't know.
I'm just depressed by the above.
I'm just depressed by the above.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
All 6 points are a load of shite frankly.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can we stop having 'motions' - this outdated nonsense is a gift for bureaucrats and an attack on wider participation.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
It shows that they've learnt nothing.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Nope.
But that they're having a conference, with motions, of this nature is telling enough.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
what, like Blair did with Labour, you mean?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Oh for gods sake.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
What's wrong with point one? other than 'aim for the moon, might hit the top of a lampost'?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Why specify Europe? Really?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Because to differentiate from the anti-eu tusc - already relating to and focusing on other tiny left groups.
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