"You're just not worth it."

[killer b]

(it does though)

 

[brogdale]

I just listened to that three times. 'Stock-taking', not 'stock'. Not Bielderberg, not Rothschild, not nano-thermite. Fuck off.

Not convinced that the term "stock-taking" makes sense in that context?

I suspect that the comment from 'Sam' on the blog might be closer..

I believe that it's used in management-speak to refer to *anything* when you have a collection of existing cases being moved from one system to another. Using it to refer to any sort of human case, especially people who are, by definition, vulnerable, is particularly disgusting, but it's likely to be thoughtless rather than malicious.

Hansard's attempt at correction is more potentially sinister to me. Did they show the minister (Freud) the first-pass and ask him to explain what he meant, and he realised how bad it looked so produced something garbled that he thought was a plausible mishearing? Who knows.

As you say, not nano-thermite material, but just crass vermin speak.

 

[Athos]

What a terrible thread. From the shit title, to the Jewish cul-de-sac, and the "stock, taking"/"stocktaking" non-issue. Fucking up an easy run at an decent target, on an important issue.

 

[SikhWarrioR]

That goes without saying - he's a tory.

We are in danger of running out of words for this bunch of cunts

That has "Tee-Shirt" written all over it No truer words spoken

 

[killer b]

what might we have achieved with this thread, had the derail not happened?? Have we smothered the revolution it it's cradle?

 

[Buckaroo]

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Not convinced that the term "stock-taking" makes sense in that context?

I suspect that the comment from 'Sam' on the blog might be closer..



As you say, not nano-thermite material, but just crass vermin speak.

Please don't mate. Honestly, I started the thread (one of my first) hoping for a serious discussion about the issues involved in supporting people with disabilities/learning disabilities in employment/training because that's what I do/know about. I fucked up with the thread title and the rest and soon enough I've got 'Jewish ancestry', 'Cunt' , '...go for the juglar!' and the like in the first few posts. My bad and all that ...but fuck that stock thing. That's gravy not the Wannsee conference. Fuck off.

 

[Coolfonz]

'Stock' was a term used by the Nazis to designate camp victims, it is relevant

but I'm not going to get into a discussion about it.

Er?

 

[brogdale]

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Please don't mate. Honestly, I started the thread (one of my first) hoping for a serious discussion about the issues involved in supporting people with disabilities/learning disabilities in employment/training because that's what I do/know about. I fucked up with the thread title and the rest and soon enough I've got 'Jewish ancestry', 'Cunt' , '...go for the juglar!' and the like in the first few posts. My bad and all that ...but fuck that stock thing. That's gravy not the Wannsee conference. Fuck off.

Yeah, fair play.
I suppose Freud's track record of cuntery was always going to make de-rails too easy.
Sorry.

 

[UrbaneFox]

Freudian slip. He meant it.

Another Freud muddying the good family name.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

That has "Tee-Shirt" written all over it No truer words spoken

image is from the sabcat 'tory scum' t-shirt range

(other ranges are available)

i'm contemplating getting one for next time there's a casual day at work (office twunt is a tory activist)

 

[brogdale]

Hey, Cronx-crew...Freud went to Shitgift. No surprise he's such a cunt, eh?

 

[savoloysam]

<Pops in thread>

<Does a runner>

 

[smokedout]

Are you sure about that? Have you got a link to it? The 'stock' thing?

Claimants are regularly referred to as stock in DWP documents (above is from the Access To Work statistics)

 

[harpo]

what might we have achieved with this thread, had the derail not happened?? Have we smothered the revolution it it's cradle?

We might've had a reasonable discussion about the definition of mental health, the absolute myths around mental health and work and the confused statement at the end of the article in the OP about how a limited company was set up for someone Freud stated had limited capacity, in that person's name, with Freud implying he was personally involved. We then have a very confused statement about 'staying within benefits' which from the Minister for Welfare Reform shows dangerous ignorance, at best. If, for example, someone is on ESA (Support), they can earn up to £101 per week without any knock on re ESA/HB etc, but only if working up to 16 hours a week. So that's probably minimum wage, certainly not £2 per hour.

We could have a look at that?

 

[harpo]

Also about the negative and groundless stereotypes that this fool is perpetuating.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Also about the negative and groundless stereotypes that this fool is perpetuating.

of people with learning disabilities / mental health problems (i know the difference between the two - not entirely sure he does) or of clueless tory twunts?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Disability. Employment. Rights.

Any thoughts?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/...d-apology-comment-disabled-people-mimimu-wage

if lord fraud dies tomorrow I'd fucking cheer.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Freud and the rest of them have lots to apologise for, this is the man(of jewish ancestry) who also described disabled people on benefits as 'stock'

its just been on Ch4, the Adam Smith twerp was defending the statement, this is going to expose the Tories, Milliband actually woke up a bit today and gave a robust response in parliament.

I bet Mr Adam Smith gets more than the name, the cunt

 

[harpo]

of people with learning disabilities / mental health problems (i know the difference between the two - not entirely sure he does) or of clueless tory twunts?

The former for his woeful ignorance, the latter for demonstrating it.

 

[Awesome Wells]

You know Cameron's on the ropes when he starts talking about his late son.

(Which he did in PMQs today)

For whom he claimed a benefit his government, upon gaining power, successfully sought to remove entirely.

 

[treelover]

BBC news are saying more to come about Freud.

 

[harpo]

I hope he gets his fucking arse kicked but there are so many more to fill the void.

 

[treelover]

Yes, but Freud is one of the worst, just google him to see what other obscenities he has come out with.

 

[brogdale]

BBC news are saying more to come about Freud.

You sure they weren't just reporting Lab chatter?

 

[treelover]

Sorry, it was comments by a contributor to the Paper Review


http://order-order.com/2014/10/15/labour-backed-4-a-day-pay-for-mentally-disabled/

btw, rearguard action by Fawkes, they are rattled, though if true it shows just how low NL were too

 

[xenon]

Useless mouths. We are all economic productive value, or not. That's what this is about. Seeing people through the prism of economic productivity, worth, potential profit. again, there is no need to bring in the Nazis fascism and the like into this. The attitudes implied in his statements are built into the very system the political mainstream are beholden to. Even if individually they don't recognise it. we have all met or known disabled people that frankly aren't capable of working in terms of a regular job. Reasonable people would think they should be supported and helped. Given the opportunities to do what they can as far as possible. The attitude here though is, if they can't stack shelves as fast as someone else. Pay them half the minimum wage. You don't need Hitler or any of that shit for this to make sense if your mindset sees capitalism, enterprise, as the source of all human creativity and the engine of social progression.

TL/DR he's still a cunt.

 

[harpo]

Yes, but Freud is one of the worst, just google him to see what other obscenities he has come out with.

That you know of.

Actually I hope you're right. It takes a special kind of odious cunt to think of people in terms of how much their disability reduces their labour value.

 

[brogdale]

Sorry, it was comments by a contributor to the Paper Review

They knew for sure, or were just repeating chatter?

 

[AnIdiot]

He's not the first to come up with this idea. Another fuckturd, Christopher Chope came up with a motion that disabled people should be allowed to 'opt-out' of the minimum wage. In order for them to offer their services 'at a price of their own choosing'.

 

[Sprocket.]

He is only saying what the rest of his party and their supporters think.
They are not known for their altruism and compassion are they?