Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
He's a cunt is the first thought that comes to my mind.
That goes without saying - he's a tory.
We are in danger of running out of words for this bunch of cunts
He's a cunt is the first thought that comes to my mind.
btw, could do with better thread title.
why is his jewish ancestry of relevance?
Yes, it's debatable what's worse, Freud's original comments or his attempted damage limitation claiming that he was looking to see how benefits could be used to subsidise employers.Apparently the state should top up the wages.... said the bloke from the Adam Smith institute
Where did he? And you brought in his Jewish heritage before even mentioning that.'Stock' was a term used by the Nazis to designate camp victims, it is relevant
but I'm not going to get into a discussion about it.
It is. I'm still not sure why his jewish ancestry is relevant though.Anyway, the story is all over the media
Freud and the rest of them have lots to apologise for, this is the man(of jewish ancestry) who also described disabled people on benefits as 'stock'
Of course it's a fucking class issue.Disability isn't a class issue, and yes, Labour would be different.
Are you sure about that? Have you got a link to it? The 'stock' thing?
What a pathetic comma in that piece.
btw, could do with better thread title.
The claim he used stock is nonsense, i have no desire to defend him, but it does not stand up . I don't recall the nazis using such a word in such a way either. Stock is something of value for starters.Its relevant to his usage of the word 'stock' to describe disabled claimants, terms used by the Nazis to designate victims
Buckaroo, its common knowledge with disability groups, have a look at the 'black triangle' site
that's all I will say on the issue.
“Clearly nobody goes to a food bank willingly. However, it is very hard to know why people go to them.”
On Tuesday 8th November, the welfare reform bill Grand Committee debated Time Limiting ESA to one year.
Bns Hollis (Lab leader) pushed Lord Freud (Gov sponsor of the bill) to provide a financial breakdown of how much the measure would cost.
In reply, Lord Freud seemed to say, quite clearly,
"Well my Lords, you can see the process here clearly as you move through the bulge of effectively, stock, taking on the transfer from IB to ESA....."
As you might imagine, twitter (we were live tweeting the debate to a wider audience) immediately exploded with indignation. "Did he just call us STOCK?" one person asked and many tweets followed, astounded to hear us referred to in such inhumane terms.
Stock - what does it make you think of? Cattle? Commodities? Perhaps when discussing human beings there are worse connotations.
Well, it would appear that the Hansard report has this transcript,
"My Lords, one can clearly see the process here, as you move through the bulge, of stopping as you take on the transfer from IB to ESA."
This now makes no sense at all. I am assured that the job of those transcribing for Hansard is to make sense where they believe someone has spoken in error or where the grammar is not clear. With this in mind, perhaps they simply could not discern Freud's meaning and changed it to this garbled phrase.
However, it seems rather coincidental that a word that caused such offence, such fear and shock, should be the very word unavailable for posterity.
I'll leave you to judge. You can watch from 17.43 and decide for yourselves.
Its relevant to his usage of the word 'stock' to describe disabled claimants, terms used by the Nazis to designate victims
Buckaroo, its common knowledge with disability groups, have a look at the 'black triangle' site
that's all I will say on the issue.
He's talking to the people who'll vote for him. He's taught them to think that way so the least he can do is keep it coming.Yeah, he did "stock", the cunt. He's known for this sort of stuff...remember when he said...
It's already been mentioned on this bloody thread. The phrase was stocktaking? Taking stock of something.
the detail doesn't matter anyway.
the detail doesn't matter anyway.