Your nominations for the twelth Doctor
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Gromit
International Man of Misery
Look its Doctor Who not... um whats the female version of Doctor? Oh yeah, nurse... not Nurse Who.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
congratulations gromit, now get off my thread
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
wait this one isn't technically mine, mines the other one. Point still stands though, you are banned from this thread. Imagine If you'd said that patterson joseph couldn't be doctor cos its doctor who not uncle ben. It'd be pitchforks at dawn. So do one.
DotCommunist
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what he hasn't seen for a long time is the gym. I'm all for an older doc, but he has hit the pies with gusto. And gravy
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Fabulous. Sexist troll of the day.
You must be hilarious at the GP: "Very good, now run along and get the actual Doctor. You are the actual Doctor you say? Now don't be silly, no you're not. We've had our little joke now, sweetheart."
christ. even taking the piss, that's pretty pathetic.
DotCommunist
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remarkable that 1970's Who was actually quite good whereas 1970s gromit is not
discokermit
Well-Known Member
surely gromits joke is a feminist one?
DotCommunist
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far better that he reprise his role from Sexy Beast and cows the sontarans with a blistering assault of cunt-laden polemic
Corax
Luke 5:16
Not any way I can parse it it's not.
everything is pointing towards cunt-laden polemics tbf. would certainly renew my interest in the show.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
obviously there are women doctors, what is absurd is the idea that the female equivalent of a doctor is a nurse and more importantly that someone would express that as an opinion. it made me laugh.
Corax
Luke 5:16
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Or Claypole, even better.
You want to get LDR back from New Zealand to do it?
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
I thought David Tennants turn would count as Claypole
Corax
Luke 5:16
Who's LDR? I want Michael Staniforth to do it. The production team can use the Tardis to travel back pre-87 for filming.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Sweet Eris, nooooooooooo!
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Obvious troll to one side my objections to a female Doctor are not because its against canon. Okay so there was once a timelord who flipped back and fore so it can be done. Fine.
But the Doctor doesn't flip back and fore so why should he start now? Its not the Doctor's modus operandi.
Its not because I believe a woman couldn't save the world etc. etc. like the male Doctor could. They could. I hated the fact Battlestar Galactica made Starbuck female at first. Turned out to be one of there better decisions as it worked really well.
The female Watson in that new Sherlock Holmes series adds an interesting dynamic also. About the only thing that saves it from being the same old same old.
If the change adds value then go for it but I fail the see the value here other than giving the girls a turn because its been a man for so long.
If you want to do a spin off with the Doctor's daughter being a save the day timelord I'll be there watching it and cheering her on (if the plots are any good). In fact I'm rather disappointed its not already happened.
But I really do not want the Doctor to so dramatically change persona by flipping to a female persona (any more than I want my favourite female characters to suddenly become men). If the female involved is going to play it the same as the other Doctor's (be a male persona in a skirt) then thats wrong too.
I'm curious as to what will happen to the viewing figures too despite fans thinking they'd like it. What of the overall viewing public? The Doctor Who tale has always been about this enigmatic masculine figure who whisks people (men and women) away from their mundane lives to adventures. The emphasis being the passenger. Will women still be able to experience the passenger fantasy that been a large part of its success or will female viewers now feel obliged to imagine themselves as the uberpowerful Doctor saving the world because of predictable feminist empowerment storylines etc?
I think the producers will tear a leaf out of the Tennent days and try and tottify the role again. Attempts to sex symbol up Matt Smith have been met with embarrassing ew's by many. If it had been Tennent they have been lapping it up with a spoon wanting more and forgiving all sorts of shit acting and poor plots if the Tennent era is any example.
But the Doctor doesn't flip back and fore so why should he start now? Its not the Doctor's modus operandi.
Its not because I believe a woman couldn't save the world etc. etc. like the male Doctor could. They could. I hated the fact Battlestar Galactica made Starbuck female at first. Turned out to be one of there better decisions as it worked really well.
The female Watson in that new Sherlock Holmes series adds an interesting dynamic also. About the only thing that saves it from being the same old same old.
If the change adds value then go for it but I fail the see the value here other than giving the girls a turn because its been a man for so long.
If you want to do a spin off with the Doctor's daughter being a save the day timelord I'll be there watching it and cheering her on (if the plots are any good). In fact I'm rather disappointed its not already happened.
But I really do not want the Doctor to so dramatically change persona by flipping to a female persona (any more than I want my favourite female characters to suddenly become men). If the female involved is going to play it the same as the other Doctor's (be a male persona in a skirt) then thats wrong too.
I'm curious as to what will happen to the viewing figures too despite fans thinking they'd like it. What of the overall viewing public? The Doctor Who tale has always been about this enigmatic masculine figure who whisks people (men and women) away from their mundane lives to adventures. The emphasis being the passenger. Will women still be able to experience the passenger fantasy that been a large part of its success or will female viewers now feel obliged to imagine themselves as the uberpowerful Doctor saving the world because of predictable feminist empowerment storylines etc?
I think the producers will tear a leaf out of the Tennent days and try and tottify the role again. Attempts to sex symbol up Matt Smith have been met with embarrassing ew's by many. If it had been Tennent they have been lapping it up with a spoon wanting more and forgiving all sorts of shit acting and poor plots if the Tennent era is any example.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
jesus christ gromit. your perception of gender is such a fucking horrorshow.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you've fundamentally misunderstood the archetype that Who represents. Its the gifted trickster, the shaman-clown.Not really gendered at all.
Corax
Luke 5:16
So a female regeneration would inherently be a more 'dramatic' switch than that from Ecclestone to Tennant, for example? Can you explain how/why?
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Thats one facet, one element but not the only one. Remember once upon a time he was the wise old grandfatherly figure.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Its like enigmatic, ruthless and yet charming and powerful figures cannot possibly be cloven of crotch because thats the way things work
Gromit
International Man of Misery
That one was quite horrific tbh.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
No they can. But will the viewing audience fantasize about them with the same passion? The men might. I suspect the female viewing audience won't. I admit its only a suspicion.
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