Yes or No -AV referendum May 2011

[butchersapron]

I've made no effort to hide or disguise the fact I campaing on this issue profesionally. But if others have nothing to hide, why don't their declare what they do for a living themselves so we're all in the same position?

Maybe they too campaign professionally on this issue? But they don't. So fuck off.

 

[Proper Tidy]

How will it be different. First time as tragedy, second as farce?

It will be different because it won't be co-opted by liberal wetwipe cunts like you.

 

[articul8]

Yes it was and yes it does.

How so? Let's have the bottom up history of the Tory party

Are you really going to be this crude? The labour party says that it represents w/c interests therefore it does. Do you see where you are now?

I certainly never said it *does* represent w/c interests. I said that it was founded on that claim. That makes it a qualitatively different sort of organisation than out-and-out capitalist parties.

 

[butchersapron]

I've made no effort to hide or disguise the fact I campaing on this issue profesionally. But if others have nothing to hide, why don't their declare what they do for a living themselves so we're all in the same position?

Yes you fucking did as well - you hid it and other horrors for years until you were exposed.

 

[frogwoman]

The Lib Dems also say they represent the interests of "alarm clock britain" and the like.

 

[Belushi]

I've made no effort to hide or disguise the fact I campaing on this issue profesionally. But if others have nothing to hide, why don't their declare what they do for a living themselves so we're all in the same position?

Because youre the only one being paid to push a position by an organisation very keen to make a profit from said position.

 

[butchersapron]

How so? Let's have the bottom up history of the Tory party


I certainly never said it *does* represent w/c interests. I said that it was founded on that claim. That makes it a qualitatively different sort of organisation than out-and-out capitalist parties.

The tories claimed to represent the w/c too - your pathetic embarrassing argument is gone.

 

[articul8]

It will be different because it won't be co-opted by liberal wetwipe cunts like you.

More abuse. Fine. But you won't even get into the position where any fucker takes any notice, certainly under the present electoral system. At one time Militants would have called you "sectarians on the fringes of the labour movement". They'd have been just about right.

 

[butchersapron]

Drunk lib-dem making things worse - i'm sure i've got an alarm for this.

 

[articul8]

The tories claimed to represent the w/c too - your pathetic embarrassing argument is gone.

Not as a class they didn't (and don't).

 

[butchersapron]

More abuse. Fine. But you won't even get into the position where any fucker takes any notice, certainly under the present electoral system. At one time Militants would have called you "sectarians on the fringes of the labour movement". They'd have been just about right.

Is that you moonie?

 

[butchersapron]

Not as a class they didn't (and don't).

Neither did labour - so that's your point gone.

 

[articul8]

Yes you fucking did as well - you hid it and other horrors for years until you were exposed.

wtf? you seem to be going snooker loopy this evening

 

[butchersapron]

Not as a class they didn't (and don't).

Er...yes they did and do. You're not very au faut with conservative ideology are you?

 

[articul8]

Neither did labour - so that's your point gone.

Erm, they did in part.

 

[butchersapron]

wtf? you seem to be going snooker loopy this evening

You lied about about being in labour and who you worked for for years. As the song has it, you're one of those that think not telling is not lying.

 

[butchersapron]

Erm, they did in part.

So labour claimed to represent the w/c and the tories did too.

 

[articul8]

Er...yes they did and do. You're not very au faut with conservative ideology are you?

No they may claim to represent the *whole* nation (ie. inc. the w/c )

 

[Proper Tidy]

More abuse. Fine. But you won't even get into the position where any fucker takes any notice, certainly under the present electoral system. At one time Militants would have called you "sectarians on the fringes of the labour movement". They'd have been just about right.

Lol. You should join a trot party, sounds like you could do with a bit of political education. CLP's can be a bit, errr, dull, can't they?

 

[butchersapron]

No they may claim to represent the *whole* nation (ie. inc. the w/c )

Yes, as per my claim. Did i miss the labour party doing someting different?

 

[frogwoman]

What's that Victorian Poster by the tories saying "Stop the Whigs and justice for the poor" or something along those lines?

Btw, the tories under robert peel were the first to introduce state-funded police forces etc, among other stuff.

 

[articul8]

Lol. You should join a trot party, sounds like you could do with a bit of political education. CLP's can be a bit, errr, dull, can't they?

Been there, done that. No intention of repeating the experience.

 

[articul8]

Yes, as per my claim. Did i miss the labour party doing someting different?

The clue might be in the name?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Yes, as per my claim. Did i miss the labour party doing someting different?

And here we have the difference between the LP and the thinking behind a new workers party A8...

 

[Proper Tidy]

Been there, done that. No intention of repeating the experience.

Sparts?

 

[butchersapron]

The clue might be in the name?

yeah, that's what counts mr scientist.

 

[butchersapron]

Hey, a8 want to join the good party? It does good things.

 

[articul8]

Sparts?

you really wouldn't like the answer.

 

[articul8]

Hey, a8 want to join the good party? It does good things.

for whom does it do good things?

 

[Proper Tidy]

you really wouldn't like the answer.

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