Yes or No -AV referendum May 2011

[Spanky Longhorn]

No

That's because you're unsophisticated.

 

[butchersapron]

No

But what about the disaggregation?

 

[frogwoman]

Lol so parties will know how many votes they're REALLY getting? erm yeah ... except tatctical voting is just as likely uinder AV, as it is anywhere else !

 

[kabbes]

a8 convinced me to vote "no"

 

[Santino]

a8 convinced me to vote "no"

Has he got an evening job working for the 'No' campaign?

 

[kabbes]

Has he got an evening job working for the 'No' campaign?

I hear that he also gets his chicks for free.

 

[Streathamite]

That's because you're unsophisticated.

I must be positively stone-age, then

 

[Streathamite]

It's not, Anti MPs can be leant on, while it's appealing to keep the turn out low, I think that because it's going to be on an existing election day which is probably going to get a higher than normal turnout so people can punish the coalition, it's best not to rely on low turn out and make sure you vote no.

In, the event of a sub-40% turnout, why would disco want to 'lean on' his MPs to vote into legislation something he's just spent weeks arguing against?surely,it'll be a free vote
e2a: but I'll still vote,and vote 'no'.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

In, the event of a sub-40% turnout, why would disco want to 'lean on' his MPs to vote into legislation something he's just spent weeks arguing against?surely,it'll be a free vote
e2a: but I'll still vote,and vote 'no'.

There's free votes and "free" votes.

He may well decide that letting the referendum pass in order to prevent the Libs collapsing into acrimony and panic too soon.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

so the broad urban consensus is a "no", then?

 

[butchersapron]

It's a clear fuck the lib-dems

 

[Jon-of-arc]

That'll do me!

 

[articul8]

It's a clear fuck the lib-dems

The lib dems are already fucked. In fact they're dead. You're necrophiliacs.

 

[William of Walworth]

a8 convinced me to vote "no"

I was always going to vote no because of the gerrymandering of seats element being tied in. I'm not especially anti AV as such/on its own, could even be go to see some merit in AV, but artiul8 is not doing too good a job of arguing the case to say the least.

In any event, the biggest factor by far for me is that the LDs deserve a thorough kicking

 

[articul8]

Jesus, how many more times? - the boundaries are *not* affected by the referendum outcome. If the Bill passes, the boundaries changes/reduction in MPs will already be set in stone. The AV bit is all that remins up for discussion.

 

[butchersapron]

Lots more noes. Keep it up.

 

[articul8]

and how many "yes I will vote IWCA's?" hmm...

 

[butchersapron]

Fan-effing -tastic.

 

[articul8]

eh?

 

[butchersapron]

It's a comment on your post. And how good that post was. It was Fan-effing -tastic.

 

[articul8]

Let's have a thread where you spell out your positive strategy for building an alternative, and account for why no-one is remotely interested

 

[butchersapron]

OR; Yes or No -AV referendum May 2011

 

[butchersapron]

positive, plualist, diverse..what have i missed?

 

[Sgt Howie]

I was planning to abstain. Having read this thread it'll be no from me.

 

[articul8]

this is the limit of your positive strategy? Boost the Tories by shooting down democratic reform? Great - the Tory-anarchist alliance is alive and well

 

[butchersapron]

this is the limit of your positive strategy? Boost the Tories by shooting down democratic reform? Great - the Tory-anarchist alliance is alive and well

I thinki i've just won.

 

[butchersapron]

Stamp the feet the lib-dems pay for all you like. This is politics. You're shit at it.

 

[articul8]

shit - we've lost urban75? the game is up - becuase the odds and sods of that bulletin board are an uncanny litmus test of public opinion

 

[butchersapron]

shit - we've lost urban75? the game is up - becuase the odds and sods of that bulletin board are an uncanny litmus test of public opinion

If you can't win here you're dead everywhere else

 

[articul8]

yeh right - we should have chucked all our efforts at winning over the social misfits who can clock up over 76,000 posts on a bulletin board