Yes or No -AV referendum May 2011

[articul8]

how?

 

[butchersapron]

how?

How you seek to present once face to some people then another to others. Are you kidding you two face cunt. (i've seen both sides btw)

 

[butchersapron]

Anyway, don't do what you were going to people, which was obv vote yes....

 

[Proper Tidy]

a8, this is spectacular. I can't believe people pay you for this shit.

 

[butchersapron]

Sister organisation

What horrible stuff have the 'Sister organisation' got up to?

 

[articul8]

Not at all. You want me to be clearly selling out and moving to the right, to conform to your prejudices. I'm not. I'm against the cuts, against the coalition, and against the Labour party where it is responsible for pushing the cuts agenda.

 

[articul8]

a8, this is spectacular. I can't believe people pay you for this shit.

10.000+ posts yourself. get out more?

 

[articul8]

they are the only ones that make money. We just spend it.

 

[Proper Tidy]

10.000+ posts yourself. get out more?

Pathetic. And you're being paid for this.

 

[butchersapron]

Not at all. You want me to be clearly selling out and moving to the right, to conform to your prejudices. I'm not. I'm against the cuts, against the coalition, and against the Labour party where it is responsible for pushing the cuts agenda.

It's good that you think my views are just prejudices. I don't care how you view how i view them. You're messily selling out, not cleanly.

 

[Santino]

When you mention people's post counts, you have probably lost the argument.

 

[articul8]

Pathetic. And you're being paid for this.

No-one pays me to post here to talk to social inadequates. It's like my bit to help the big society

 

[Proper Tidy]

When you mention people's post counts, you have probably lost the argument.

Whilst true, it was lost long ago.

 

[articul8]

You're messily selling out, not cleanly.

Sorry about that. Maybe I should join the Tories and the CBI and have done with it rather than being anti-cuts and anti-coalition? It would sort out the mess in your mind.

 

[Proper Tidy]

No-one pays me to post here to talk to social inadequates. It's like my bit to help the big society

I bet you have a hectic social life, mixing it with the pluralists and the progressives and the muscular liberals.

 

[articul8]

I've never met any muscular liberals - they are mostly of the weedy variety

 

[Proper Tidy]

And who would know better than you

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I bet you have a hectic social life, mixing it with the pluralists and the progressives and the muscular liberals.

 

[frogwoman]

No-one pays me to post here to talk to social inadequates. It's like my bit to help the big society

im sad to say but i actually thought better of you.

 

[articul8]

was out of order there, yes sorry (didn't mean it really)

 

[kabbes]

The AV campaign's money would be better spent paying you to stop talking, tbh, a8.

 

[Streathamite]

There's free votes and "free" votes.

explain,please?

He may well decide that letting the referendum pass in order to prevent the Libs collapsing into acrimony and panic too soon

wouldn't that a) cause a Tory backbench revolt (given that many of 'em are ambivalent about cameron - and the coalition - anyway) and b) make him look a complete arse,after all his "no" campaigning?

 

[articul8]

The AV campaign's money would be better spent paying you to stop talking, tbh, a8.

27,000+

 

[Streathamite]

this is the limit of your positive strategy? Boost the Tories by shooting down democratic reform? Great - the Tory-anarchist alliance is alive and well

It is NOT "democratic reform":it is a stitch-up with cosmetics.Stop lying

 

[Streathamite]

by and large the money is raised through conducting private ballots for the internal democratic culture of private organisations like trade unions

and FTSE-250 corporations. How very socialist of you

 

[nino_savatte]

I'll be voting NO.

 

[nino_savatte]

It is NOT "democratic reform":it is a stitch-up with cosmetics.Stop lying

Exactly. I've had arguments with Take back Parliament who continue to labour under the delusion that AV will eventually lead to real PR. I told them they had more chance of meeting Jesus in Tesco than achieving real PR in their lifetimes.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

and FTSE-250 corporations. How very socialist of you

a8 is a 'pragmatist' not some away with fairies socialist, and pragmatically if there is nothing to be achieved regarding PR then they might as well take the opportunity to make a few quid arguing for something else.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[butchersapron]

That's the 'sister organisation'. I wonder how their tax looks.

 

[kabbes]

27,000+

That's because my employer does pay me to talk with halfwits on this message board. Admittedly they don't know this.