Yes or No -AV referendum May 2011

[butchersapron]

See what lies underneath? Just scratch it.

 

[articul8]

they don't like it up 'em, they do not like it up 'em

 

[butchersapron]

I'm quite partial to it. You think that you're cop jones panicking and running around? Yeah. You're right, for once.

 

[butchersapron]

yeh right - we should have chucked all our efforts at winning over the social misfits who can clock up over 76,000 posts on a bulletin board

Who are 'we'?

 

[articul8]

Panic? No - if the referendum goes down the world won't fall in. It will just be an opportunity missed. Anti-cuts and green votes will objective help the tories. And Cameron's chances of getting a majority will have been boosted.

If you are against AV, then why is it that you believe that right wing parties are better able to win over 50+ of the vote than centre/left parties?

 

[articul8]

We the illuminati, obviously

 

[butchersapron]

Don't you do politics then?

You can fuck off with your pathetic paid smileys as well.

 

[articul8]

er yes. I think it's entirely possible that anti-cuts candidates could pick up preferences from across the spectrum

 

[butchersapron]

Panic? No - if the referendum goes down the world won't fall in. It will just be an opportunity missed. Anti-cuts and green votes will objective help the tories. And Cameron's chances of getting a majority will have been boosted.

If you are against AV, then why is it that you believe that right wing parties are better able to win over 50+ of the vote than centre/left parties?

Who said i'm against AV. I could not give a fuck. That's you - and you're paid too.

 

[articul8]

This one is sponsored by the liberal democrats

 

[butchersapron]

er yes. I think it's entirely possible that anti-cuts candidates could pick up preferences from across the spectrum

When?

 

[articul8]

at the next election - if AV was in place

 

[butchersapron]

This one is sponsored by the liberal democrats

Wouldn't be the worst of your bosses funding would it?

Glad you find it so funny. Ha Ha

 

[butchersapron]

at the next election - if AV was in place

So vote Av to stop the cuts after 2015.

Star

 

[articul8]

Wouldn't be the worst of your bosses funding would it?

Glad you find it so funny. Ha Ha

The ERS doesn't get a penny off the Lib dems (except through running private ballots for them - just as we run private ballots for just about any (legal) organisation that wants them),

 

[butchersapron]

Nope - who do you get money off mr principles?

We know don't we.

Let me guess those principles are plural.

 

[articul8]

how are you proposing to stop the cuts? I will back unions/community groups in fighting back. But realistically the coalition will be replaced by a Labour government

 

[butchersapron]

Desperate. Change the topic quick! Ever seen a bureaucrat on the run. You have now

 

[articul8]

I get money from my employers. I don't feel obliged to defend their every move. But by and large the money is raised through conducting private ballots for the internal democratic culture of private organisations like trade unions

 

[butchersapron]

I get money from my employers. I don't feel obliged to defend their every move. But by and large the money is raised through conducting private ballots for the internal democratic culture of private organisations like trade unions

Who else? 'by and large' - fuck off.

 

[articul8]

Desperate. Change the topic quick! Ever seen a bureaucrat on the run. You have now

on the run? How? from what? I spend more time fighting the LDs alongside the local anti-cuts group than in Labour meetings. But ultimately, who will people turn to?

 

[butchersapron]

on the run? How? from what? I spend more time fighting the LDs alongside the local anti-cuts group than in Labour meetings. But ultimately, who will people turn to?

Tonight? From me.

 

[articul8]

So workers should be judged by the probity of their employers? Really?

 

[articul8]

Tonight? From me.

er no. I stand my ground. It is perfectly possible to be vehemently against the LDs and the cuts, and to fight for a step forward in terms of democratic reform.

 

[butchersapron]

So workers should be judged by the probity of their employers? Really?

So your employers - whose argument you're paid to forward - are shit?

 

[butchersapron]

er no. I stand my ground. It is perfectly possible to be vehemently against the LDs and the cuts, and to fight for a step forward in terms of democratic reform.

It is, where are you doing this? Without the we.

 

[articul8]

I didn't say that. I don't agree with the official position of my employers in some regards. Nor do I approve of every commercial decision taken by it's sister organisation.

 

[butchersapron]

2-0

Sister organisation. ahhh.

 

[articul8]

It is, where are you doing this? Without the we.

in my life. In the way I spend my time.

 

[butchersapron]

Two faced cunt.