fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
To me there's a clear difference between a public highway and a town square.
Windrush Square used by We Train commercial personal trainer company
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To me there's a clear difference between a public highway and a town square.
bi0boy
Power User
the bye-laws clearly state:
and i would say the advertising is offering to provide a service.
Oh well I didn't know about any by-laws. My comparison remains valid for public space not subject to such by-laws
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
always start with the bye-laws
bi0boy
Power User
I am sure their advert display is privately owned, and roads are public space.
bi0boy
Power User
Or the by-laws
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
See post 31
editor
hiraethified
Of course there is.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
You may find that English common law does not quite agree.
bi0boy
Power User
You can't get the staff these days.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so in answer to your op, you should contact the council and complain about this organisation's use of the square under sections 38 & 40 of the bye-laws.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i can't get the staff at all being as i don't get involved with recruitment - above my pay grade, don't you know.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
editor isn't an anarchist and i proposed a course of action i believe appropriate to his beliefs.
i haven't checked the ages of the exercisers which, unlike you, i believe to be immaterial.
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
English common law has little influence on me when I pick a spot to sit, chill, have my sandwiches and watch the world go by.
As for shouty people in Lycra, that would have a direct influence.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
It seems a bit funny to want to sit and passively observe the world go by; and then complain that it's the wrong kind of world as it does.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
and it's not as if editor has ever made any money from doing stuff in windrush square
editor
hiraethified
Er, what?
What totally irrelevant, unconnected and no doubt snidey ad hominem have you got stored up for me here? I've never run a commercial business from the square, nor have I posted up any advertising hoardings. So what is your big point?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's not the wrong sort of world passing by, it's the wrong sort of world stopping, setting up advertising hoardings and forcing some sort of performance on people in a space in which such activities are prohibited.
editor
hiraethified
It's really about whether people think it's OK for commercial enterprises to reserve space for themselves in public squares for private gain. I don't think it is, but no doubt some of the more Thatcherite posters here will applaud such 'entrepreneurship' because in their world, it's always 'profit first'.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Good point. How can they stop you here or in Brockwell Park or anywhere where they have not paid to use the facilities?
editor
hiraethified
It's like when people tag on to guided tours, remain just a few feet away but stay close enough to eavesdrop the conversation.
I guess with this thing, it would be hard to gatecrash the paid session unless anyone happened to be around at the time and with a yoga mat under their arm.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
snowy_again
Slush
They don't and can't. The military training people in Brockwell Park got a bit shirty when we've foolishly tried to join in; after we pointed out that putting down cones in the park doesn't mean it's yours alone to use.
Trying to run away with the massive tyre they use for training was - in hindsight - a mistake.
Cadging along to someone's guided tour is however a nobbish thing to do IMO.
discobastard
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure anybody has clarified whether they are using the space without permission or not, unless somebody can prove they haven't then it's all a pretty pointless discussion.
It's quite easy to get a temporary permit, and Lambeth are OK with that because it contributes to wellbeing in the area.
As usual - most of this information is freely available. Given WeTrain are an established organisation, they would be nuts to do this without a licence.
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Physical_Activity_License_Information.pdf
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/brl-physical-activity-licence-application-form_1.pdf
It's quite easy to get a temporary permit, and Lambeth are OK with that because it contributes to wellbeing in the area.
As usual - most of this information is freely available. Given WeTrain are an established organisation, they would be nuts to do this without a licence.
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Physical_Activity_License_Information.pdf
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/brl-physical-activity-licence-application-form_1.pdf
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
The price of VR headsets just needs to come down a bit and we'll all be able to sit in Windrush Square having a fully curated experience surrounded only by those people we deem appropriate for the area.
editor
hiraethified
Their website throws around the #flashmob hashtag a fair bit which gives the impression that they're spontaneous and unlicensed, but I could be wrong. Whether they paid or not is not really the issue anyway (that's why I didn't mention it in the OP). I was more interested in what people felt about commercial ventures taking over spaces in small public squares.
