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Starry Wisdom
yeh. well, i thought it best to move the discussion away from the path ending in the point where i call you a twat.
Windrush Square used by We Train commercial personal trainer company
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sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
No mention of Windrush square in Lambeth's outdoor sports facility strategy. It is informative all the same.
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/de...trategy-and-action-plan-2015-2020-jan2015.pdf
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/de...trategy-and-action-plan-2015-2020-jan2015.pdf
discobastard
Well-Known Member
I'd rather you carried on down that path because I'm still not entirely clear on your point. For that I'm happy to absorb any ineffectual/superfluous insults
What was the point again about why people should exercise at home and trip hazards lying around for those with sight loss?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You seem to think I have said something stupid, like blind or partially sighted people should only exercise at home. Have I?I'd rather you carried on down that path because I'm still not entirely clear on your point. For that I'm happy to absorb any ineffectual/superfluous insults
What was the point again about why people should exercise at home and trip hazards lying around for those with sight loss?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
But answer came there none
Black Halo
Well-Known Member
No, they use parks because they are "free".
Your argument only works if they are in the park touting for business, they are not. They are using the space as their place of business and as an adjunct to that possibly advertising their services. Not many of the personal trainers/bootcamp/fitness businesses working in a park will deal with walkups on the day, it's usually organised and paid for in advance.
Granted a park is one of the best places for these activities to take place. For these businesses it has the added benefit of meaning they have no venue costs. I will let the reader decide which factor is uppermost in their mind when choosing to hold their classes in a park or another suitable space.
bi0boy
Power User
What non-public outdoor spaces should they use? It's sounds like you're advocating for private parks.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
You need trees and outside for that kind of work. Somewhere like a park in fact.
Black Halo
Well-Known Member
Firstly there are such things as private parks and privately owned outdoor space, not hard to find either in London. I 100% do not advocate or support these things but they exist.
Secondly exercise does not need to be outdoors and may not even be desirable. Many of these classes including the case mentioned in the OP could clearly be done indoors in a community hall or gym.
Thirdly I have no problem with the use of public outdoor space by a business as long as they are contributing to the upkeep/management/running costs of that space.
bi0boy
Power User
So you don't support private outdoor space and at the same time support the use of it.
There are clear benefits to outdoor exercise. Perhaps that's a separate thread.
Then those public spaces become supported by and craven to the interests of paying groups.
discobastard
Well-Known Member
Don't be impatient. I'm busy
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. right. you were busy all night long too i suppose. don't come all dwyer with me, it suits you even less than it does dwyer
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Still busy eh?
Black Halo
Well-Known Member
Nope, I just noted they do exist and that I have no control over there use (or lack of use) so that they are not included in the argument here as their owners can decide what they want to happen in them (but they'd charge any business for use of the space).
Citation needed. Whether or not this is true has no bearing on whether or not a public space should be used for free by a business. I would have the same opinion on a public indoor space, that businesses should pay if they are benefiting financially from using it.
Only if the people who are custodians of that public space (in this case Lambeth Council) allow it to be and it is part of the unwritten contract inherent in such arrangements that all decisions made should be for the "public good".
Defining the "public good" and whether or not the custodians of the space are acting in a manner that meets this ideal is a separate argument.
