Why the lib-dems are shit

[killer b]

oh, and loads of people can't even afford to buy second hand. cock.

 

[ymu]

Yeah, but it was filled with old people who smelled of wee and those who didn't have net connections at home.

I'm not saying this cash should be taken away, but maybe look at how its spent?

Bingo!

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Did you read my first post...I was talking about using the same cash spent to reach a wider audience?

I'm on JSA and bought a pack of K Cider tonight...that's a few books if you wonder round markets.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Bingo!

So do we need to keep these physical buildings or can could same cash be used in making sure they did?

 

[ymu]

How are they going to download ebooks without an internet connection?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Public funded 4g is one thought. I'm sure there are many others.

 

[killer b]

how about having easily accessible buildings full of learning materials, newspapers and the like that people could visit?

 

[ymu]

And associate with each other? The very thought!

 

[UnderOpenSky]

How is a bus ride in to town more accessible then sitting on my sofa? Granted its different living in a town again, but when I was in the sticks it was a half hour drive with no bus routes to the local library.

The amount these buildings cost could pay for huge amounts of data.

 

[killer b]

why do we need pubs, when we can just sit at home with an internet connection and a 4-pack of k cider?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

How is a bus ride in to town more accessible then sitting on my sofa? Granted its different living in a town again, but when I was in the sticks it was a half hour drive with no bus routes to the local library.

The amount these buildings cost could pay for huge amounts of data.

 

[killer b]

no point in schools - you can get a teacher app for your iphone now.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

why do we need pubs, when we can just sit at home with an internet connection and a 4-pack of k cider?

False analogy. The only time I've seen people properly socialize is in uni libaries when we're avoiding work.

And yes K Cider and a net connection has stepped in for a social life for me.

 

[ymu]

The amount these buildings cost could pay for huge amounts of data.

Is that where the money is going, then? Why haven't we been told?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I guess all I'm saying is that building filled with books that are hard to get to for many people, cost a lot to maintain and we could distribute information more efficiently.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Is that where the money is going, then? Why haven't we been told?

It's not rocket science to work out that to keep a library going with resources and staff must cost a fair bit.

 

[ymu]

So, the money is going to provide everyone with an ebook reader and free WiFi?

 

[killer b]

something about knowing the cost of everything, and the value of nothing.

g'night.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

So, the money is going to provide everyone with an ebook reader and free WiFi?

Nah I'm a fucking hippy. It's what I think it should do.

 

[DotCommunist]

Yeah, but it was filled with old people who smelled of wee and those who didn't have net connections at home.

I'm not saying this cash should be taken away, but maybe look at how its spent?

oh come on, spending review in the public sector means how can we trim it to the bone, in this climate more so than it was even under labour misrule. It's symptomatic of the belt tightening 'we're all in this together' bullshit. Only during the boom times I was still on minimum wage, big society seemed noticeably quiet then. And now they want to cut back on the scraps we are fed. Brilliant.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

something about knowing the cost of everything, and the value of nothing.

g'night.

Not meaning to be a cunt about this, its more about how can we deliver as much data as possible to those who want it for the cash there is to spend on it. It should be more.

In an ideal world I'd see both.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

oh come on, spending review in the public sector means how can we trim it to the bone, in this climate more so than it was even under labour misrule. It's symptomatic of the belt tightening 'we're all in this together' bullshit. Only during the boom times I was still on minimum wage, big society seemed noticeably quiet then. And now they want to cut back on the scraps we are fed. Brilliant.

Sorry dude, maybe wrong thread?

I don't think public spending should be cut, but see nowt wrong with looking how it is spent.

 

[ymu]

Nah I'm a fucking hippy. It's what I think it should do.

It just seems a bit weird to argue in favour of cutting libraries by coming up with better uses for the money, when you know fine well the money is being used to reduce the deficit. What's your point?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

It just seems a bit weird to argue in favour of cutting libraries by coming up with better uses for the money, when you know fine well the money is being used to reduce the deficit. What's your point?

I started this on the wrong thread.

I don't think the money should be cut.

 

[ymu]

Fair dos.

 

[butchersapron]

Lib-dem manifesto:

We will crack down on tax havens which allow individuals and corporations to avoid paying taxes to developing countries.

Today:

Multimillionaire foreigners prepared to invest their money in Britain will find it easier to make a home in the UK under government plans to relax immigration rules for the *super-rich.

The Home Office will shortly propose changes to “investor visas” to encourage more rich people to live and invest in the UK.

To see how this dovetails with other moves towards tax haven status see this.

 

[The39thStep]

It just seems a bit weird to argue in favour of cutting libraries by coming up with better uses for the money, when you know fine well the money is being used to reduce the deficit. What's your point?

Does anyone think local libraries have had their day? I haven't been in one for about 15 years

 

[killer b]

Does anyone think schools have had their day? I haven't been in one for about 15 years.

 

[frogwoman]

Hospitals have definitely had their day, I mean, I can't remember the last time I went into one in this country!

 

[butchersapron]

Clegg, the week before the election:

Everyone wants change, it just depends what kind. It’s a two-horse race between fake change under David Cameron and the real change offered by the Liberal Democrats.

Also, from the same week:

Nick Clegg was greeted by hundreds of students at an outdoor rally at Leicester De Montfort University, his largest crowd yet, despite a widespread view that his performance in the previous night’s televised leaders’ debate had been his weakest.