Why the lib-dems are shit

[butchersapron]

Glover's lasted piece of self delusion - some corkers in there:

Ten tips for the Liberal Democrats

3) Oh, and win the AV referendum. It's not impossible. And if not that, then at least win the public over to coalition government. It's happening: voters like co-operation and they see the Lib Dems as a moderating force. In 2015 the message should be: like the coalition and want it to continue? Then you'll have to vote Lib Dem.

4) Join forces with Labour in Scotland next May

Hug students close

Don't panic. There is no crisis.

No one expects the opposition to approve of doing deals with Tories. But the majority of voters understand why it happened. Labour has misjudged the tone. Sneering at Clegg's party will not destroy it. Labour comes over as angry and isolated

He really is the boy in the bubble isn't he?

 

[frogwoman]

Labour lol.

"Hug students close" what drivel is this,especially when half of them would run a mile from him. he deserves a slap

 

[Streathamite]

"Item two on the agenda; how much lube do we need?"

"Item 3 on the agenda - back under the covers for the rest of the day or off to ye olde drinke-soddene helle-hole to drown our sorrows?

keep 'em coming, comrades, keep 'em coming....

 

[frogwoman]

then a short break for refreshments and suspicious-tasting orange liquid

 

[treelover]

Lib-dems now demanding cuts to the EU's budget, including the social fund

Thats incredible, it is only regeneration funds, etc from Europe that have kept cities and regions in the North from going belly up..

 

[ViolentPanda]

Item 4 on the agenda. "See if MI5 can arrange to brain-wipe the entire population, so that we can pretend we haven't broken any pledges".

 

[ViolentPanda]

Thats incredible, it is only regeneration funds, etc from Europe that have kept cities and regions in the North from going belly up..

So, what does that tell you?
It tells me that we can gauge exactly how much the coalition cares about anywhere that isn't a core constituency.

 

[Combustible]

No one expects the opposition to approve of doing deals with Tories. But the majority of voters understand why it happened. Labour has misjudged the tone. Sneering at Clegg's party will not destroy it. Labour comes over as angry and isolated

That would be why the latest YouGov poll puts Labour on 39% and the Lib Dems on 11%

 

[frogwoman]

that hotbed of left wing activism, yougov survey takers.

 

[Fedayn]

Some interesting results here, LD vote in urban areas is suffering...

Coleridge Ward, Cambridge City Council. Lab gain from Con. Lab 900 (44%, +11.7), Con 734 (35.9%, +7.5), LD 223 (10.9%, -14.6), Green 137 (6.7%, -4.2), UKIP 53 (2.6%, -0.3). Swing of 1.6% from Con to Lab since May this year.

Cenarth Ward, Carmarthen CC. PC gain from Ind. PC 636 (81.9%, +59.4), Con 141 (18.1%, +18.1). Swing of 20.7% from Con to PC since 2008.

Ladywell Ward, LB Lewisham. Lab hold. Lab 1231 (41.4%, +3.2), Green 1041 (35%, +6.4), LD 314 (10.6%, -5.2), People not Profit 233 (7.8%, nc), Con 153 (5.1%, -4.6). Swing of 1.6% from Lab to Green since May this year. This ward had 3 Green councillors until May.

Hulme Ward, Manchester MBC. Lab hold. Lab 1035 (60.7%, +14.9), Green 451 (26.5%, +4.5), LD 151 (8.9%. -14.1), Con 67 (3.9%, -6.3). Swing of 5.2% from Green to Lab since May this year.

Ponteland East Division, Northumberland CC. Con hold. Con 843 (62.6%, +2.1), LD 403 (29.9%, +1.6), Lab 100 (7.4%, +2.9). Swing of 0.3% from LD to Con since 2008.

Lyth Valley Ward, South Lakeland DC. Con gain from LD. Con 474 (49.5%, +5.1), LD 451 (47.1%, -8.5), Lab 32 (3.3%, +3.3). Swing of 6.8% from LD to Con since 2008.

Moredon Ward, Swindon UA. Lab gain from Con. Lab 887 (47.5%, +12.2), Con 755 (40.4%, +1.9), UKIP 129 (6.9%, +6.9), LD 98 (5.2%, -12.9). Swing of 5.2% from Con to Lab since May this year.

 

[Santino]

The Lib Dems are shit because Jon Gaunt looked more liberal than them on Question Time. A new low.

 

[Fedayn]

The Lib Dems are shit because Jon Gaunt looked more liberal than them on Question Time. A new low.

He managed it on a few occasions. Btw, Gaunt used to be a rather Left leaning cluib owner in years gone past.

 

[butchersapron]

from a paper i despise, but the figures were quoted in other media

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...se-of-80-per-cent-cut-to-housing-benefit.html


are you intimating £20,800 isn't enough to find suitable accomodation?

£103,000 is an outrageous amount of money. can you justify this being spent on a family?

Hey muppet, it turns out this figure applies to three families. Three. Well done on buying the line.

 

[story]

The best thing that could be said about them is that their policies may politicise and/or re-politicise people.

Certainly I've encountered more political discussions in staff rooms and public places in the last few weeks than in any time since New Labour came to power (apart from during the Oil Wars).

 

[William of Walworth]

I couldn't get that link to the Glover article from BA, in post 2251, to work at all .... only produced the headline and subheadline and no other content

Here's the link again

He isn't half talking shit! Unsurprisingly .....

 

[William of Walworth]

The Lib Dems are shit because Jon Gaunt looked more liberal than them on Question Time. A new low.

He did???

Explain, please!

 

[Santino]

He did???

Explain, please!

Gaunt came out against control orders (having been in favour of them previously, I think), but the Lib Dem twat weaseled and wormed and basically supported them, despite belonging to a party which voted against them in Opposition.

 

[Streathamite]

Glover's lasted piece of self delusion - some corkers in there:

He really is the boy in the bubble isn't he?

ah, but even our King of the Delusional People now sees the Libdem vite may not hold up that well!

 

[butchersapron]

15 years to the day of the execution of Ken Saro- Wiwa. 15 years since Vince Cable did his pilate act. 15 years of principles. 15 years of new politics.

 

[elbows]

Has anyone linked to Nick Clegg writing in the Guardian?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/09/poverty-plus-pound-not-enough

The coalition's welfare reforms will at last make work pay. That is what we mean by fairness.

Our welfare reform plans go hand in hand with our investments in long-term social mobility. In the comprehensive spending review we announced a £7bn "fairness premium", stretching from the age of two to 20. These investments are intended to promote social mobility, to ensure that children are able to rise regardless of their background.

If only it were true I may cut them some slack. But Ive seen very little that will actually improve social mobility, and of course most of Cleggs self-delusions are likely to fail quickly if private sector jobs dont materialise.

 

[Citizen66]

'social mobility' lol. Capital will always want a pool of cheap labour.

 

[Santino]

Unless the worst off are getting better off then social mobility is just re-arranging the furniture.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Unless the worst off are getting better off then social mobility is just re-arranging the furniture.

Perhaps he means social mobility rather more literally; i.e. the geographical displacement of the poor.

Louis MacNeice

 

[elbows]

Maybe he means downwards mobility

 

[butchersapron]

Nick Clegg is on the Pride of Britain awards tonight attempting to scab some credibility off the back of real heroes.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Hug students close

Nick Clegg, We know you, You're a fucking Tory too.

.

 

[Santino]

The Lib Dems are shit because the CUNTING CUNTS had fuck all intention to make any effort to defend their 'pledge' on tuition fees. The cunts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/12/lib-dems-tuition-fees-clegg

 

[big eejit]

The Lib Dems are shit because the CUNTING CUNTS had fuck all intention to make any effort to defend their 'pledge' on tuition fees. The cunts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/12/lib-dems-tuition-fees-clegg

Cunts indeed, but (and I'm sure this has been pointed out already in this thread) cunts who are taking the heat of the architects of this shit. Clegg is Cameron's slimy human shield.

 

[little_legs]

these revealations are like a regular guardian column now. why can't these whores just backtrack on every single pledge and be done with it.

 

[killer b]

give 'em time!