Why the lib-dems are shit

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

You don't get to be an evil rich bastard by wasting money on shit like the lib dems tbf.

 

[elbows]

Maybe this from 2007 counts.

The Liberal Democrats are being indirectly funded by the profits of arms contractors, despite their policy to "tackle the arms trade".

Money that was originally the proceeds from developing "direct energy weapons" and urban warfare arms for Iraq, has flooded into the party's coffers.

The records of the Electoral Commission show that the Lib Dems, who oppose military action in Iraq, have received £17,174 from a company run by a reclusive billionaire, Marcus Evans.

The cash is helping fund a new computer database to profile every voter in the country, a key component in the party's campaign for local and regional elections in May.

Mr Evans, who has a business empire of more than 20 companies - including the UK-registered Marcus Evans Ltd, which made the donation - runs conferences with the arms trade, such as Direct Energy Warfare 2007. This featured the use of "lethal" lasers, and high-intensity radio frequency waves to "destroy" enemy personnel. Other conferences include Operations in Iraq and Urban Warfare 2005

Lib Dems cash in on arms trade link

I'm sure plenty of Lib Dem stuff on this front involves wiggle room but then again I tend to associate that party with expert wriggling at the best of times.

Last night, a Lib Dem spokesman said: "Marcus Evans Ltd runs a wide range of conferences on a variety of issues - including healthcare, energy, the environment and information technology. It is not involved in the buying or selling of arms."

 

[MickiQ]

You don't get to be an evil rich bastard by wasting money on shit like the lib dems tbf.

This is probably the truest statement in politics, the LibDems have probably not received much if any cash from shady regimes but not because they're particularly honest rather because no-one thinks it likely that they will ever be in a position to pay it back.
Even Evil Overlords must want the best possible return on their investment

 

[elbows]

Found one more, that will do from me.

Billionaire Sudhir Choudhrie has been welcomed by the British establishment.

His family's Stellar International Art Foundation owns more than 600 rare works of art by artists including Picasso, Renoir and Andy Warhol.

He has been photographed receiving a business award from Theresa May and his family has given more than £1.6m to the Liberal Democrats. The 67-year-old is now an adviser to Lib Dem party leader Tim Farron.

Mr Choudhrie and his family run a global business empire that includes hotels, healthcare and aviation.

But an investigation by BBC Panorama and The Guardian suggests he is also one of the world's biggest arms dealers.

Leaked documents from the Choudhries' Swiss bank show that the family's companies were paid almost 100m euros by Russian arms firms in one 12-month period alone.

The arms dealer welcomed by the establishment

 

[Edie]

This is probably the truest statement in politics, the LibDems have probably not received much if any cash from shady regimes but not because they're particularly honest rather because no-one thinks it likely that they will ever be in a position to pay it back.
Even Evil Overlords must want the best possible return on their investment

well maybe that’s the truth and I’m not gonna win the ‘theyre All morally bankrupt when it comes to donations’ argument

 

[Edie]

Found one more, that will do from me.





The arms dealer welcomed by the establishment

That’s more like it elbows

 

[Dom Traynor]

Well there is this arsehole if it helps

Michael Brown: From £1.6m villa to prison yard, downfall of the Lib Dem fraudster

He’s a cunt but I look forward to the Nick Moran film about his life.

 

[andysays]

Thanks. That smacks of pure incompetence on their part rather than moral shadiness mind.

That sounds like a winning slogan 'vote LibDem for pure incompetence rather than moral shadiness'...

 

[Libertad]

Moral shodiness?

 

[elbows]

With all the 'dilemmas over money, funding, investments' and other common ground, maybe they could merge with the church of england and become the church of handwringerland.

 

[Dom Traynor]

With all the 'dilemmas over money, funding, investments' and other common ground, maybe they could merge with the church of england and become the church of handwringerland.

If it’s true the CoE have bought Wongas debt then they’re a million times better than the Libdems

 

[not-bono-ever]

they decided not to

 

[elbows]

they decided not to

Probably because if they had, there would be 'moral pressure' on them to write it off or treat those in debt differently to how investors and capitalists normally treat debtors.

Because you know, heaven forbid that the church might use its financial muscle to actually practice what it preaches. Better to stick to the old ideas that peoples actual lives will remain shit but never mind, it will all be ok for them once they are dead, so long as they believe in the supreme entity.

 

[Streathamite]

methanol is the bad shit that has to be topped off when distilling before you get to the goodness of ethanol below- its the stuff that kills people who drink home brewed gear

ahhh....you have certainly filled a gap in my (extremely minimal) knowledge of brewing methods!

 

[Streathamite]

The Canary is even worse than the Libdems.

given that one purports to be a radical left news site, and the other is a centrist political party - what makes you say that?
e2a:don't think much of the Canary, just wanted to hear your views

 

[rekil]

given that one purports to be a radical left news site, and the other is a centrist political party - what makes you say that?
e2a:don't think much of the Canary, just wanted to hear your views

The thread on the Canary outlines why it's shit fairly adequately. It's a vehicle for breathless Icke adjacent crankery and ultimately a nuisance.



"Watch man, who happens to be Fox's biggest racist, ANNIHILATE the msm" etc.

 

[mather]

The thread on the Canary outlines why it's shit fairly adequately. It's a vehicle for breathless Icke adjacent crankery and ultimately a nuisance.

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"Watch man, who happens to be Fox's biggest racist, ANNIHILATE the msm" etc.

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What rubbish. In that instant they were spot on, the rest of the media were pushing for war and Tucker Carlson was pretty much the only msm person who was questioning the so-called logic behind it. Rather than making yourself look like a fool for calling them out for doing that, why don't you ask why the rest of the media failed so miserably in doing it's job?

 

[rekil]

lol

 

[mather]

No surprise to see you have no point.

 

[killer b]

that darned MSM

 

[butchersapron]

Pushing for war? Life really stopped for some lefties in 2003 didn't it?

 

[Shechemite]

that darned MSM

They stick it in the news so you never feel full up

 

[rekil]

Big big liker of casually brown's drivel that one iirc so no surprises here.

 

[mather]

that darned MSM

Yes, sod the MSM. Are you actually trying to defend their record?

 

[killer b]

Just laughing at you mostly. I don't have a great deal of time for the press, but tbh I've got less for Mendoza's cynically targeted conspiracy site.

 

[Wolveryeti]

I dread to think how many badgers you need to arse rape to get that sweaty

 

[mather]

Pushing for war? Life really stopped for some lefties in 2003 didn't it?

Well given that the last time the media lied to get us into war and hundreds of thousands dies as a direct result, can you blame me for being more pissed off with them and their actions which carry far more weight and cause far more damage than anything the Canary or other new media outlet do?

And yes, they were pushing for it. With the exception of Tucker Carlson, all of the MSM, including the rest of Fox News, were pushing for war or some type of military intervention in Syria.

 

[butchersapron]

No they weren't. What happened was load of people claimed that they were because of 2003 - because they must be doing that right - and look all the non-msm are saying they are. If your political vision is just replaying that 2003 situation over and over then you're not going to have much to say about today. Beyond maybe don't rebel against dictators. That actually explains a lot of the madness going on right now - communists saying don't rebel, labour-anarchists and red-brownism.

 

[rekil]

I can't remember which Douma conspiracy theory the Canary settled on. I think they pushed all of them but I'm on loonwatch furlough so won't check. This stuff belongs elsewhere. Sorry for the derail fellow libdem h8rs.

 

[mather]

Just laughing at you mostly. I don't have a great deal of time for the press, but tbh I've got less for Mendoza's cynically targeted conspiracy site.

Yet it is the msm that lies more/twists the narrative, has a far bigger audience, has far more power and the ability to influence public debates. Why not make an even bigger deal about that?