Why the Green Party is shit

[SpackleFrog]

mind you they are being outperformed electorally by UKIP so I won't be quaking in my sandals just yet

Do we have a "Why UKIP are shit"? Or is that just too easy?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I need a long break from here at the very least.

Go running back to Stormfront then

 

[rekil]

He did this on purpose, in the hope that he would be thrown out of the Dail, and would therefore not have to vote for whatever obnoxious piece of austerity legislation he was being whipped on that day.

But the Irish Greens were always eejits: I remember one of their first TDs, back in the late 80s, saying that he was "always aware of the trouble caused by strikes".

Nigel Irritable - I seem to recall reading that when the PDs called it quits, some of their membership joined up with the Greens. Any truth in that one?

From last year, no idea if he's followed it up.

FORMER GREEN PARTY TD Paul Gogarty has said that that he is considering a move to Fianna Fail.

The former Dublin-Mid West TD is no longer a paid-up member of the Green Party and is considering the move following a conversation with a local Fianna Fáil supporter while taking part in RTE’s ‘Celebrity Bainisteoir’. The FF supporter told Gogarty that if he ran in the next General Election under Fianna Fáil that he would get elected.

The Lucan man also had some harsh words for the electorate, saying that some of them are “thick as hell”.

Also this



(Please watch this)

"But I'm not."

 

[Riklet]

^ that's classic! Love the posters scene...

Meltingpot def wins the Loonspud of the week weird-thread-blathering award.

..and the Greens are still weaving organic shit strings.

 

[Nylock]

Fair enough, and I'd have less of a problem with a thread that general than I would with one singling out the Greens for censure - because it could go on to a discussion about the way we actually do politics, which we maybe need to have.

Do you actually read the same forum as everyone else here? The 'why the libdems are shit'/'post examples of tory stupidity here'/'why labour are scum'/'the <insert current swp slagfest here>' threads are rarely off page one of this forum and continually point out examples of prize cuntery from those parties. Your silence on those threads is deafening; why should the green party, with all their baggage, be exempt from scrutiny?

BTW, the clue is in the title with this thread. It's pretty safe to assume that a thread titled "Why 'x' is shit" is hardly going to be a balanced and nuanced debate about how, given a specific value of 'x', a countervailing value of 'y' will mitigate it's shitness -it's going to be a thread exploring and quantifying the specific and general shitness of 'x' as represented by the various powers and functions of 'x'...

Have to say I agree. The one genuinely nice person I've ever seen as a PM was - believe it or not - John Major, and he was not a great success. Michael Foot was also a very nice man IMO, but he didn't make a success of his job (leading the Labour party) either. As you say nice people are a rarity at the top.

John Major was a terrible person and a fucking disaster as PM; there is a special circle of hell reserved for him and his kind. The fact that you think he's 'nice' says an awful lot about you as well...

 

[DotCommunist]

I think the reason we don't have a dedicated tory shitness thread is because its fed directly into our eyeballs every day on bbc news

 

[Nylock]

tbf, most of this section of U75 is, in one way or another, a vast exploration of "Why the Tories are shit". It's just that the enormity of their shitness and their sheer cuntitude is so overwhelmingly vast, so all-pervading, that we have to split it up into easily digestible chunks....

 

[DaveCinzano]

...I won't be quakering in my sandals just yet

Fixed

 

[andysays]

The Transition Town movement is a Green thing isn't it, even if not (or maybe it is) GP policy?

Here's a comment from the Bad Science forums:

http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34271

Remember, this is a normal person talking, not just someone off Urban75.

I'm not sure that the people on that forum are any more "normal" than those here, but

Floppy anarcho toff nonsense​

is a pretty good summary of my experience of Transition Towns. For all their much-vaunted rainbow localism, they also seem to have a certain cult-like tendency, following the guru Rob Hopkins

 

[frogwoman]

wasn't our falcon involved with it? which would explain a lot

 

[brogdale]

This is the centre of our home, really. We chose the house because it was incredibly welcoming - and the fact that, despite being a three-storey townhouse in the centre of Brussels, it had a garden. My husband, Richard, does most of the gardening, but I help out from time to time.
One of the things I love most about this space is its warmth, the colours; it's very vibrant....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/15/caroline-lucas-politician

Obviously, this could also have gone in the 'Why the Guardian..' thread, but I thought this one most appropriate.

I reckon the book on the stool might well be about how to live a green life, or somesuch.

 

[emanymton]

Obviously, this could also have gone in the 'Why the Guardian..' thread, but I thought this one most appropriate.

I reckon the book on the stool might well be about how to live a green life, or somesuch.

Everything about this photo is clearly staged, including the 'casually' placed book. Which means that my some nefarious means, this so called green managed to get that cat to pose just how she wanted it to. I bet Lucas was just off to one side tapping a packet of fags or something.

Also, it actually looks pretty cold and uninviting to be, and it looks about the same size as our whole house.

 

[brogdale]

Everything about this photo is clearly staged, including the 'casually' placed book. Which means that my some nefarious means, this so called green managed to get that cat to pose just how she wanted it to. I bet Lucas was just off to one side tapping a packet of fags or something.

Also, it actually looks pretty cold and uninviting to be, and it looks about the same size as our whole house.

Not sure about the cold and univiting...especially with all the lamps on.

La Lucas said...

I do most of my writing in here, speeches mainly and a chapter that I contributed to a book on greener living called Do Good Lives Have to Cost the Earth? It discussed how dealing with climate change doesn't mean constantly "giving things up", it can actually be about enjoying a better quality of life.

 

[sihhi]

From Iain Dale's Total Politics:

InterContinental London – Westminster Hotel
We were seated in a room rather appropriately called Emmeline’s – named after the iconic suffragette – at the heart of Westminster’s new favourite haunt; a spacious and lavish hotel.

The menu
Tea Earl Grey,
English Breakfast.
Sandwiches Cream cheese and cucumber; smoked salmon and crème fraîche.
Cakes Tea-infused, such as a chocolate cupcake with peppermint, and a green tea macaroon; freshly-baked scones with homemade jam, clotted cream and lemon curd.

The cost
£29 per person

 

[snadge]

Not very fucking green, are they?

 

[sihhi]

Not very fucking green, are they?

She won the "Green Personality of the Year" in 2010 for her commitment to green principles.

She accepted the award at this private club (which also has an ultra members section as a polo club).

Bordering the Thames in Fulham and set in 42 acres of magnificent grounds, The Hurlingham Club is a green oasis of tradition and international renown. Recognised throughout the world as one of Britain’s greatest private members’ clubs, it retains its quintessentially English traditions and heritage, while providing modern facilities and services for its members. The Club continually looks at ways in which it can improve, for both current and future generations, the first-class social and sporting facilities within an elegant and congenial ambience.

No pictures but other events at the same private club venue:

Insides

 

[free spirit]

far too much piss and wind involved for my liking.

I prefer to just get on with it - this was a 3kWp system we just installed on a stupidly difficult Yorkshire Stone roof, coz we wanted to prove that it could be done without ending up with something that would look completely out of place.

part of around 100kWp of solar PV systems our little team will have installed this month... oh, and we've just taken an apprentice on, who's gone from unemployed to earning a pretty decent amount of money with us so far this month as we're doing it without any of the government apprenticeship nonsense involved - fair days pay for a fair days work IMO, apprentice or not.

 

[emanymton]

Not sure about the cold and univiting...especially with all the lamps on.

La Lucas said...

No way could I relax and feel comfortable in a room like that.

 

[chilango]

No way could I relax and feel comfortable in a room like that.

I fucking could.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I fucking could.

Me too - look how high the ceiling is - you could probably get a trampoline in and all kinds of other cool shit there

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Me too - look how high the ceiling is - you could probably get a trampoline in and all kinds of other cool shit there

 

[rekil]

Me too - look how high the ceiling is - you could probably get a trampoline in and all kinds of other cool shit there

There's a piana and everything. Sea shanty singalongs every other night.

 

[barney_pig]

They're not, and nor have I ever claimed they were. I've seen "the lib dems are shit" thread, which I should perhaps have acknowledged, but not the others.



Yeah I know about the road works too. I never said he was perfect.

Look, I'm tired, sod this for a game of soldiers. Sorry Steph you're probably a decent person but this REALLY isn't what I want to be doing with my spare time.

I need a long break from here at the very least.

Well done, Steph. Though I believe the twat is lying.

 

[Meltingpot]

You're entitled to your opinion, but we've spent wasted enough time discussing me already on this thread. Let's stick to the subject.

 

[ViolentPanda]

She won the "Green Personality of the Year" in 2010 for her commitment to green principles.

She accepted the award at this private club (which also has an ultra members section as a polo club).





No pictures but other events at the same private club venue:

Insides

TBF, the schtick about the Hurlingham Club being set in 42 acres is a bit misleading, because more than half of that is an athletics facility that's used by local state schools.
Club membership is fairly exclusive, though.

 

[stethoscope]

Let's stick to the subject.

That's what this thread was doing until you came on here bitching and trying to shift its emphasis, engaging in a disingenuous approach of conflating 'Green Party' with wider green issues to try and smear others (despite some of them having eco-activist/environmental pasts).

(I saw your other reply which you've since edited out, I can't believe you're trying to seriously paint me as being some sort of nasty person that 'broke the camels back' ffs).

 

[Meltingpot]

That's what this thread was doing until you came on here bitching and trying to shift its emphasis, engaging in a disingenuous approach to try and smear others as being critical of green issues (despite some of them having eco-activist/environmental pasts), when it's about why the Green Party is shit.

(I saw your others reply which you've since edited out, I can't believe you're trying to seriously paint me as being some sort of nasty person that 'broke the camel back' ffs).

Here we go again. I'm trying to be civil about this and move on, but you're not letting me.

I edited that out because I didn't want the whole thread to be about me. If you want to discuss the comments I made about your response to me I'd rather it was by PM, but I'll reply here if you want. Your choice.

 

[butchersapron]

Here we go again. I'm trying to be civil about this and move on, but you're not letting me.

I edited that out because I didn't want the whole thread to be about me. If you want to discuss the comments I made about your response to me I'd rather it was by PM, but I'll reply here if you want. Your choice.

Leave the thread and stop making silly points about how the thread must be balanced by pro-green party views and smearing people who have criticisms of the green party as people unconcerned with gree issues then. You're nearly 70 ffs.

 

[stethoscope]

Sorry, but I took this as passive-aggressiveness 'blame':

Look, I'm tired, sod this for a game of soldiers. Sorry Steph you're probably a decent person but this REALLY isn't what I want to be doing with my spare time.

I need a long break from here at the very least.

 

[butchersapron]

It's classic, you're being very unreasonable here and wasting my time. Now we get pages of meltingman talking about himself, exactly as he didn't want.