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elbows said:
What was the leaders performance like on Question Time?
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Ignore Treelover; Natalie Bennett managed roughly the same level of coherence as Charles Kennedy, who sadly looks like he's drinking again, and wasn't allowed to talk much. Thing is a) he's not a leader and in fact his political career is over and b) what's her excuse?
 
sheothebudworths said:
Mr.Bishie - did you have the fairly obvious looking *damage limitation* leaflet through your door shortly after the non-agreement meeting? :hmm:
It loudly proclaimed a reduction in council tax/cuts on the first side...'WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? :cool: '...and then was all next year, maybe on the back.
I'm annoyed with myself cos I saved it, intending to upload it but I can't find it now (and can't find it online).

I had a doorstepper a few days later, too and told him I was torn by the disparity of beliefs in the party and that I'd been appalled by the encouragment of scabbing during the bin strike (cos I fucking WAS)......and he acknowledged that and then spewed forth on the advantage of Caroline as a local candidate....and I reminded him that she had PICKED UP RUBBISH herself...and he did the gracious thing of reminding me of all the GOOD STUFF she does....and then I got a bit bored :D and when he asked if I had any more questions, I simultaneously REALLY wanted to ask about the council meeting but also couldn't be arsed.
I say that cos I was cooking the fucking dinner and I don't have enough confidence in my knowledge to argue a point.

He asked how likely they were to get my vote blah blah and I said not very.

I actually haven't got a fucking clue, still - it's driving me a bit nuts.



Something else I'd like to say though, while I'm here :thumbs:

I was brought up by mum, a single parent.
Her parents were communists and she is too.
She's been a committed trade union activist, too - also very involved in her local community, always.
I have always taken my politics from hers, iykwim - but without a tenth of the effort :oops: - I went to sleep to the lull of voices from downstairs (she couldn't fuck off elsewhere, so she brought the meetings home).

I feel like a total cock now :oops: but I'm saying something along the lines of us all getting our ideas of what is *right*, which set in, early on.....but asking that you lot that are really confident with your knowledge just don't always shoot people down when they ask questions.

I think there are a whole heap of people who're after learning more - and this is a perfect place to do it - but it's intimidating asking.

Blah, blah.
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Nowt wrong with what you're saying, say more. And at communism's approach you might get to hang some Greens. It's the plebian way and it won't cost a grand, either.
 
I should maybe pay more attention to whats going on locally then is the general gist i get from this thread.
 
Just watched that Question Time and Charles Kennedy was drunk. Not really acceptable for the BBC to have put him in front of the cameras TBH (especially as they are probably the one's who plied him with booze)
 
worth noting sainted churchill was pised but 'allowing it' pissed morning noon and night throughout the second world war. He wouldn't get out of bed before he'd had a doube brandy ffs
 
DotCommunist said:
worth noting sainted churchill was pised but 'allowing it' pissed morning noon and night throughout the second world war. He wouldn't get out of bed before he'd had a doube brandy ffs
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It looked like Charlie Kennedy had had a few more than a double though..
 
kenny g said:
Just watched that Question Time and Charles Kennedy was drunk. Not really acceptable for the BBC to have put him in front of the cameras TBH (especially as they are probably the one's who plied him with booze)
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Pissheads tend to find/consume booze on their own steam, I'm not sure you can blame the beeb.
 
andysays said:
Why do you think it's worse?
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Because it's not representative of their views, particularly on population. They should have mugs with stuff from their policy page on them.

GenocidalButGreen said:
There is a need to explicitly consider population since, if it is ignored indefinitely, the risk of over-consumption of natural resources will increase, leading to conflict and ultimately a reduction in carrying capacity.
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copliker said:
Because it's not representative of their views, particularly on population. They should have mugs with stuff from their policy page on them.
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There's a difference between a party's long term position about population and their immediate position regarding migrants, especially when they're seeking to find a slogan to stick on a mug (and presumably in response to the Labour Party's mug).

If we're simply talking about slogans about migration on mugs, I have to say I prefer the Greens, although I'd rather they used green printing on a white mug - I wouldn't want to drink my coffee out of that thing :eek:
 
andysays said:
There's a difference between a party's long term position about population and their immediate position regarding migrants, especially when they're seeking to find a slogan to stick on a mug (and presumably in response to the Labour Party's mug).

If we're simply talking about slogans about migration on mugs, I have to say I prefer the Greens, although I'd rather they used green printing on a white mug - I wouldn't want to drink my coffee out of that thing :eek:
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Can you not spot some grubby opportunism when you see it? :mad:
 
copliker said:
Can you not spot some grubby opportunism when you see it? :mad:
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Grubby opportunism is the nature of the game they've chosen to play (I don't support them in that or everything they do/stand for).

I'm taking issue with the idea that it's worse than Labour's one - had you said "as bad in it's own way", I probably wouldn't have bothered
 
Trying to explain to convinced Greenies why they're shit is a waste of energy eh :facepalm:
 
I prefer to just troll them (irl and online) with bolivian arse wasp type stuff - much more fun and doesn't lead to stress/frustration/loss of hair
 
SpineyNorman said:
I prefer to just troll them (irl and online) with bolivian arse wasp type stuff - much more fun and doesn't lead to stress/frustration/loss of hair
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Saying that their lack of a convincing class analysis (yes I know that locally sourced organic candy floss for all is party policy but anyway...) prevents me from taking them seriously is met with bemusement. Which is kind of a justification for the scepticism really.

Oh, I get asked "who's better then?". Which is never an argument in favour of anyone :facepalm:
 
elbows said:
If we stop wasting that energy then we must let the green party know, so they can feed that energy saving into their carry capacity formula. A few more humans may be allowed to be conceived if we do our bit for the struggle.
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I shall write to my local branch forthwith
 
Green mugs for green mugs.

Encouraging the consumption of hot beverages lowers our ultimate carry capacity, oh the horror.
 
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