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Why the Green Party is shit

Ive joined the Greens. I was in Labour-stopped voting for them after 97. The greens are a bit shite in some respects-theyve got a shite leader. Some silly policies-but a lot of the stuff I do agree with-they arent perfect but on balance they're closer to my beliefs than any other party of their size and bigger
 
Grandma Death said:
Ive joined the Greens. I was in Labour-stopped voting for them after 97. The greens are a bit shite in some respects-theyve got a shite leader. Some silly policies-but a lot of the stuff I do agree with-they arent perfect but on balance they're closer to my beliefs than any other party of their size and bigger
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I think I'd rather join PASOK than the Greens.
 
gosub said:
I think the benefit is the other way round, he wanted her in the debates to help split Labour vote. As it is, every time she opens her mouth she loses votes.
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I think it's a double edged sword; if the Greens did well they'd take votes from Labour but if they can't defend their plans for building council homes etc they give Cameron a big run up for the "typical Lefties want to spend all your tax money" schtick.
 
brogdale said:
I see there was some consensus, though...
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My understanding is that the Greens proposed to do away with that.

We’re also hearing that the Tories and Labour voted down a Green proposal to protect services for the vulnerable by getting rid of paid party political advisers, as well as a proposal for a 6% rise in council tax to prevent further cuts.
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I'm trying to find the council minutes to confirm whether that's actually true.

If it is true that a 5.9% increase would have required a referendum it does seem odd to have picked a number that would raise about as much as the referendum costs.
 
I mean I can understand that they need to raise funds, that's fair enough.

Duplicating the mechanisms by which other other parties end up in hock to a bunch of dodgy millionaire, rather less so.
 
Interesting, isn't it? Especially since the US Green Party has more than a few prominent black and Hispanic members. Then again I get the impression that the US Greens are a lot more proletarian than the UK Greens.
 
Mr.Bishie - did you have the fairly obvious looking *damage limitation* leaflet through your door shortly after the non-agreement meeting? :hmm:
It loudly proclaimed a reduction in council tax/cuts on the first side...'WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? :cool: '...and then was all next year, maybe on the back.
I'm annoyed with myself cos I saved it, intending to upload it but I can't find it now (and can't find it online).

I had a doorstepper a few days later, too and told him I was torn by the disparity of beliefs in the party and that I'd been appalled by the encouragment of scabbing during the bin strike (cos I fucking WAS)......and he acknowledged that and then spewed forth on the advantage of Caroline as a local candidate....and I reminded him that she had PICKED UP RUBBISH herself...and he did the gracious thing of reminding me of all the GOOD STUFF she does....and then I got a bit bored :D and when he asked if I had any more questions, I simultaneously REALLY wanted to ask about the council meeting but also couldn't be arsed.
I say that cos I was cooking the fucking dinner and I don't have enough confidence in my knowledge to argue a point.

He asked how likely they were to get my vote blah blah and I said not very.

I actually haven't got a fucking clue, still - it's driving me a bit nuts.



Something else I'd like to say though, while I'm here :thumbs:

I was brought up by mum, a single parent.
Her parents were communists and she is too.
She's been a committed trade union activist, too - also very involved in her local community, always.
I have always taken my politics from hers, iykwim - but without a tenth of the effort :oops: - I went to sleep to the lull of voices from downstairs (she couldn't fuck off elsewhere, so she brought the meetings home).

I feel like a total cock now :oops: but I'm saying something along the lines of us all getting our ideas of what is *right*, which set in, early on.....but asking that you lot that are really confident with your knowledge just don't always shoot people down when they ask questions.

I think there are a whole heap of people who're after learning more - and this is a perfect place to do it - but it's intimidating asking.

Blah, blah.
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SpackleFrog said:
Would anyone like to attend a champagne fundraiser*? Lead candidates and senior party officials will be in attendance.

*Minimum donation £1000

https://my.greenparty.org.uk/civicrm/event/info?id=78
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After feedback from our membership, supporters and donors, the Green Party Executive decided not proceed with this event. Instead there will be equal opportunity for all donors of the Breakthrough Appeal(1) to be one of 150 who will join our leadership and candidates for a 'Wear Something Green thank you event'.
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Fairly swift response to membership feedback, though wtf they were thinking....
 
We don't want no acid rain,
Have another glass of green champagne,
Put the poor out of their pain,
Restore the population to a level thats sane.
 
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