Why Labour are Scum
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
they fucking love their tsars don't they
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, who'd have thought that they'd be instinctively drawn to a title given to absolute autocrats convinced of their divine rights.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
vote labour
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
....back to Tristram 'sounds-like'...if more evidence of cluelessness were needed:-
Yeah, 'cause you'd really want your kid to be taught by someone qualified in one of those areas, wouldn't you?
FS
The clowns just can't leave education alone.
Yeah, 'cause you'd really want your kid to be taught by someone qualified in one of those areas, wouldn't you?
FS
The clowns just can't leave education alone.
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The irony of the fucking Sun being involved in anything related to education...
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
The Tsar thing chimes with this horrible thought I had the other week.
http://thoughtsfromtheline.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/goves-education-casualisation-casualties/
NQT's are notoriously a bit scared of disciplining and behaviour management, you learn that as you go a lot of the time.
Having a discipline tsar means they don't have to, they can just kick it upstairs to them.
So it goes.
http://thoughtsfromtheline.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/goves-education-casualisation-casualties/
NQT's are notoriously a bit scared of disciplining and behaviour management, you learn that as you go a lot of the time.
Having a discipline tsar means they don't have to, they can just kick it upstairs to them.
So it goes.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Jesus Christ, how do you get to saying something like that? He's a private school kid, but in private schools I assume most of the teachers do specialised PGCEs... even if that wasn't the case surely a cursory google might help? Fucking moron.
gosub
~#
When I was at private school,30-25 years ago, all the teachers needed was a degree, and we had some very good teachers
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I'm sure you did, but I'd wager that none of them would have claimed to have specialised in their subject or teaching skills.
gosub
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I'd say they probably were though, presumably the one that were on or heading exam boards had education related qualifications as well, so leave them out of the mix, but in the main they stuck to one subject some overlap between physics and maths but only because class had got too far ahead and maths dept lacked staff, oh and economics and geography cos there weren't enough people doing economics. We had two teachers who left to do non related things a head of history who started his own poetry publishing company and a head of maths who left to be one of the coaches at Newcastle Falcons (arriving at the same time as the schools old fly half). - I suppose that argues your point - beyond the academic there was the pastoral care and other activitiesthat kept kids occupied 16 hours a day. But i always percieved them in terms of what they taught me
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
What's needed is to drag the tsars and their families out into the snow and liquidate them.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
....back to Tristram 'sounds-like'...if more evidence of cluelessness were needed:-
Yeah, 'cause you'd really want your kid to be taught by someone qualified in one of those areas, wouldn't you?
FS
The clowns just can't leave education alone.
I can sort of see the point in maybe having a "teaching skills" specialist at each school if it gave teachers who were having a hard time getting part of their job down-pat someone to go to for help and advice, but otherwise...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep, bit like offering a surgeon the chance to qualify in understanding anatomy or using surgical instruments. You'd really want that, wouldn't you?
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
I'm just trying to understand what the equivalent would be of young master Tristam's ignorance about initial teacher training in a 'normal' job. Given that understanding education policy is his fucking job it's a bit like working behind a bar and being asked for a pint of Guinness and then going behind the bar to write a proposal for someone to brew a stout.
gosub
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But the breakthrough techniques and the really useful tools were pioneered by the ground breaking surgeons out in the field that's what made them good. The problem will come as in so many top down regulated systems is that its bound to be audited, and the question of how many new surgical tools have you invented in the last year? is a daft one let alone all the testing it will require by the other surgeons who in the main were getting on fine with the existing tools.
Lurcio
Steaming Mass of MegaCITY1
People really are desperate to escape the 'lesser of two evils' mental straightjacket that props up a discredited and failing system.
Give people genuine choices in the political process (even if some of them are unpleasant) and they will become enthused and want to participate ... but the current situation is just a charade. Russell Brand was tapping into a rich vein of despondency and cynicism in his interview with Paxo on Newsnight (last year).
The established political class (LAB-Tory-LibDem) are still wedded to the failed neo-liberal paradigm and any differences between them will be argued on the head of a pin.
Ofcourse, for Britain's middle classes, this establishment represents SAFETY ... something familiar ... and this is, perhaps, the the trump card for the status quo.
But a few more years of collapsing living standards, low down wages & a ballooning debt overhang ... well, who knows ...
Even worms turn. And there are plenty of those in the Home Counties.
Give people genuine choices in the political process (even if some of them are unpleasant) and they will become enthused and want to participate ... but the current situation is just a charade. Russell Brand was tapping into a rich vein of despondency and cynicism in his interview with Paxo on Newsnight (last year).
The established political class (LAB-Tory-LibDem) are still wedded to the failed neo-liberal paradigm and any differences between them will be argued on the head of a pin.
Ofcourse, for Britain's middle classes, this establishment represents SAFETY ... something familiar ... and this is, perhaps, the the trump card for the status quo.
But a few more years of collapsing living standards, low down wages & a ballooning debt overhang ... well, who knows ...
Even worms turn. And there are plenty of those in the Home Counties.
Brechin Sprout
Well-Known Member
If this tsar was really an expert who could not only give advice but demonstrate them in front of a class of disaffected, disinterested and disruptive 16 year olds, then fair play. But it won't. It will be another jumped up careerist chasing the extra pay and trying desperately to keep out of the class room. Another layer of target setting bullies who spend all their time assessing, observing and denigrating hard working stressed teachers.
Didn't we used to call these people 'colleagues'?
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Yeah, they're called mentors, performance managers and colleagues - we all work to help each other. We don't need a tsar, we need Hunt to fuck off.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
SikhWarrioR
And the Worms ate into his brain
Hunt along with clegg and cameron and the rest of this unwanted conservative/lib-democrat axis of evil....................................Terminate with extreme prejudice
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
No, not prejudice, compassion.
After all, you don't feel prejudice against a mad dog when you euthanise it, do you?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
If it was about the state genuinely acting as facilitator for these kind of initiatives - with proper resourcing, genuine oversight and inspection etc that could be important and useful. As it is - given the austerity context and neoliberal attempt to hive off the public services - this is just warm words that actually help to drive a wedge into the idea of collective provision and become the "diversity of providers" cloak for rampant privatisation - especially as the procurement process usually involves contracts for larger than most small charities and voluntary organisations could ever cope with. So, if they don't come forward who's left? Crapita, Serco, G4S...
_angel_
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Time was when all you needed was a degree to teach in a state school. (Of course you didn't have to have a university degree if you did the teacher training diploma).
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
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