Who will be the next Labour leader?

[Shechemite]

Any more news/rumours on his LOTO team and shadow cabinet?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Any more news/rumours on his LOTO team and shadow cabinet?

Richard Osman for shadow culture

 

[Shechemite]

Terry Christian might get it mind

 

[Labourite]

I think it's going to be Starmer. The whole leadership race has been rightly overshadowed by the coronavirus however.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Is there anywhere this is being broadcast live?

 

[brogdale]

Starmer 61% = my punt.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Is there anywhere this is being broadcast live?

silly question, COVID means there will be no public event

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Is there anywhere this is being broadcast live?

They are sending out an email, apparently

 

[brogdale]

 

[Sprocket.]

Starmer, not surprisingly.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

And Rayner.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

2020 just got worse, Jesus fucking wept.

 

[brogdale]

Don't demand the impossible.
Great start.

 

[killer b]

It's... interesting that out of this morning's Financial Times editorial and the new Labour leader's victory speech, the Financial Times editorial is by some distance the more radical.

 

[lazythursday]

It's... interesting that out of this morning's Financial Times editorial and the new Labour leader's victory speech, the Financial Times editorial is by some distance the more radical.

I was just thinking that. "We must go forward with a vision of a better society" ffs

 

[Smokeandsteam]

It's... interesting that out of this morning's Financial Times editorial and the new Labour leader's victory speech, the Financial Times editorial is by some distance the more radical.

In what way is the FT leader radical? In its ambition to bail out capital? What else would you have capital do, but adopt the measures it had to in the 1920’s and the 1950’s?

 

[killer b]

In what way is the FT leader radical? In its ambition to bail out capital? What else would you have capital do, but adopt the measures it had to in the 1920’s and the 1950’s?

It's radical when compared with this nothing victory statement from the new leader of the Labour Party, like I said in the post.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

It's radical when compared with this nothing victory statement from the new leader of the Labour Party, like I said in the post.

It isn’t. Both have set out their initial plans to provide breathing space for capitalism. Both have indicated that they know where we need to go next - a new social contract, a corporate bailout and state capitalism until captains of industry can be more bold.

The NHS and others can expect better pay. The worst excesses of the market will be reigned in and the purpose of government can be captured in two words - ‘buy time’. Scraps from the table will need to more substantial for a while. Even inequality may need to be reduced for a period.

Starmer is the leader that capital needs. He is the leader the FT leader recognises is needed. I fully expect national government to be on the agenda now.

 

[belboid]

The leading paper of capital supports continuing capitalism??!! Blimey, what an insight.

 

[lazythursday]

That FT leader is positive about UBI and calls for a whole new social contract. Starmer... well there's not really anything in that speech at all, just slippery feelgood stuff. Like a holding statement while he figures out what the fuck he believes in right now.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Amazingly Long-Bailey managed to come last in the trade union section:

Long-Bailey also came third among affiliates (union members and others) too. She got just 22% to Nandy's 24.5% and Starmer's 53%.

 

[brogdale]

Starmer's not stupid, is he?

 

[killer b]

I fully expect national government to be on the agenda now.

Can't really be arsed arguing with the rest of it, but this does look like a distinct possibility.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Starmer's not stupid, is he?

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'Probably' lol.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Can't really be arsed arguing with the rest of it, but this does look like a distinct possibility.

Johnson, by amazing coincidence, has written to party leaders today calling for closer partnership working.

 

[belboid]

The right won the two NEC by-elections too. Lauren Townsend about 300 from winning one, Jo Bird 10,000 off.

 

[DotCommunist]

if a GNU does happen he'll be fucked long before 2024. Something to look forward to

 

[killer b]

Johnson, by amazing coincidence, has written to party leaders today calling for closer partnership working.

yeah, I think viewed alongside this you can see what that signals.

Don't demand the impossible.
Great start.

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[not-bono-ever]

just remembered i have a silly high odds wager on starmer from years ago - 350 quid incoming!

 

[William of Walworth]

Just for those who haven't seen them yet, here are the full figures :

• Sir Keir Starmer - 275,780 votes (56.2%).
• Rebecca Long-Bailey - 135,218 votes (27.6%)
• Lisa Nandy - 79,597 votes (16.2%)

Just over 490,000 people voted in the contest, out of the 784,151 eligible to take part

This from Labour List is better, has more detail :

Round 1
Keir Starmer – 56.2%
Rebecca Long-Bailey – 27.6%
Lisa Nandy – 16.2%

Round 1 results by section:
Affiliates:
Rebecca Long-Bailey – 16,970 (22.31%)
Lisa Nandy – 18,681 (24.56%)
Keir Starmer – 40,417 (53.13%)

Members:
Rebecca Long-Bailey – 117,598 (29.29%)
Lisa Nandy – 58,788 (14.64%)
Keir Starmer – 225,135 (56.07%)

Registered:
Rebecca Long-Bailey – 650 (5.00%)
Lisa Nandy – 2,128 (16.36%)
Keir Starmer – 10,228 (78.64%)

Labour leader – total votes returned:
Members – 72.6% (401,564 out of 552,835)
Registered supporters – 95.5% (13,006 out of 13,626)
Affiliated supporters – 35.0% (76,161 out of 217,690)
Total – 62.6% (490,731 out of 784,151)