What stupid shit has Trump done today?
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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
His hardcore fans are as scummy and degenerate as he is....
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
The Republican Party is a death cult part 89438439483:
gosub
~#
NRA will be happy the correlation wasn't down to them
prunus
Tick tock.
Is it wrong to think “good”? It is, isn’t it? Well I don’t seem to be able to help it.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
At least Rupert got his shot here, on the NHS (ahead of nearly all of us plebs), and most of Fox / Newsmax / OANN got vaccinated.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
president have immunity to legal action once in power and the ability to pardon themselves if remember correctly
mad the party of Lincoln is willing to cause a constational crisis by backing the gobshite
unless he wins he never accept the voting and he already talking the crazies into another frenzy before getting the nomination.
mad the party of Lincoln is willing to cause a constational crisis by backing the gobshite
unless he wins he never accept the voting and he already talking the crazies into another frenzy before getting the nomination.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
They have immunity for actions related to their governance. Being able to pardon themself, isn't a settled issue. Most authorities I've read say they can't, but we all know that he'll try, and people will back him on it. It'll all end up before the Supreme Court, and I'm not certain how they'd rule.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
This is really chilling. I always wondered exactly how Trump expected to overturn the election. This radio host lays out the plan in detail:
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
I wonder whether they'll claim that's also true if you're under oath. Somehow I doubt that he'll be giving evidence in person though. Perhaps a record for number of times someone's pleaded the fifth coming up.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
I've watched a video of a dodgy Dershowtzy type right wing lawyer say it. I'll see if I can find the clip.
I think it's the only defence he's got.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Channel 4 news had an interview with Trump's spokeperson Liz Harrington last night that was pretty epic, she mentioned the Deep State and had a whole ream of 'alternative facts' to come out with. High level bullshit, how the interviewer didn't lose his cool I don't know.
I also think he's going to get the party nomination and it's going to be a election resembling a brewing civil war.
I also think he's going to get the party nomination and it's going to be a election resembling a brewing civil war.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It's a fairly established principle that this isn't a blanket defence.
And the First Amendment does not protect actions, just words.
Trump is hoping his ‘free speech’ defense will work. It won’t | Margaret Sullivan
The first amendment is powerful but it doesn’t protect criminal behavior
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bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
There doesn't seem to be any good outcome. If he loses his criminal cases, it just shows the Deep State is at work...
People keep saying: 'What if Trump wins the nomination?' (The prosecution has already handed the demagogue an extra megaphone.)
'And wins the Presidency?' (Either the prosecution is halted or he's pardoned?)
At this stage it looks likely he'll win the nomination but there are still plenty of long weeks in politics ahead. But as knowledgeable commentators point out, there is a ceiling to his support, so he might not win either of them.
But what if (admittedly looking less likely) he loses the nomination or Presidency but wins his criminal cases? (It's trial by jury so heaven knows how long it will take to empanel them, let alone hear the evidence or arguments.)
What happens to the 'ceiling' of support then?
People keep saying: 'What if Trump wins the nomination?' (The prosecution has already handed the demagogue an extra megaphone.)
'And wins the Presidency?' (Either the prosecution is halted or he's pardoned?)
At this stage it looks likely he'll win the nomination but there are still plenty of long weeks in politics ahead. But as knowledgeable commentators point out, there is a ceiling to his support, so he might not win either of them.
But what if (admittedly looking less likely) he loses the nomination or Presidency but wins his criminal cases? (It's trial by jury so heaven knows how long it will take to empanel them, let alone hear the evidence or arguments.)
What happens to the 'ceiling' of support then?
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
But what if (admittedly looking less likely) he loses the nomination or Presidency but wins his criminal cases? (It's trial by jury so heaven knows how long it will take to empanel them, let alone hear the evidence or arguments.)
What happens to the 'ceiling' of support then?
I wouldn't think it makes much difference tbh. His base seems pretty fixed regardless, I don't think 'not getting convicted' is going to cause a sudden surge. And in this scenario what's he going to do - is he standing yet again in four years, in his eighties with two consecutive defeats behind him?
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Good point. I was thinking it might move some of the more sceptical Republicans to support him, but most of all enrage the type who attacked the Capitol and spur them on to worse.
ETA I wasn't thinking of the democratic process and the 2028 election at all.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think that the Jan 6 stuff was quite a shock to the system. I really don't believe that they'd allow it to get that far again. A bigger risk might be that the Authorities overreact if there's a next time.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Trump complains that it's the democrats coming after him and how it's not the American way, but he was all for jailing Clinton...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He's never been exactly known for consistency.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
True, that.
Speaking of which, am sure there were one or two urbanites who appeared to appreciate the raping, bigoted, crooked, gaslighting, leftwing baiting monster.
They be very quiet these days.
Flavour
hang the bankers
I think the pathetic nature of the jan 6 coup shows just how disorganized the "trump base", i.e. His most hardcore support. Do people really think there are millions of American who became radicalized into being pro-trump because of the reaction to Jan 6 by the "Deep State"? I imagine that if such people exist they're a statistical irrelevancy in terms of both the electorate and even republican party members.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
On a complete tangent, but what happens in the UK if someone refuses to take an oath or affirmation?
If for example, a witness were to declare 'I am here under the threat of penalty, I do not wish to give evidence, and will not give an undertaking to tell the truth'?
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