What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[8den]

Ok, if all you did was defend this fascist's killing of an antifascist, that's cool.

No wonder you'd prefer this be 'let go'. It's shameful.

Maybe think twice about what you post, eh?

And again, I didn't know he was convicted of sexual assault either (and seeing as he was in 2012 that'd be a neat trick) you should keep hammering me about that then.

 

[danny la rouge]

Jesus christ let it go. I never defended him, I defended his actions.

Do you read this stuff before you post it?

 

[8den]

Do you read this stuff before you post it?

ABout him standing as a Neo Nazi? I'm not even sure he'd announced his candidacy at the time of the thread.

My entire point on that thread was if you're going to get into a ruck with armed police then you have to accept that you might get shot. I never defended a Neo Nazi.

 

[Athos]

And again, I didn't know he was convicted of sexual assault either (and seeing as he was in 2012 that'd be a neat trick) you should keep hammering me about that then.

So, are you saying that all your defence of him pre dates you being informed by other posters' of that group of cabanieri's political affiliations.

 

[danny la rouge]

ABout him standing as a Neo Nazi? .

No, what I quoted: the last sentence in particular.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

(Total eclipse in the US on monday.)

The more time I've spent thinking about it, the less I want to see him impeached. He's so wounded now that there's little chance of getting some of his worst agenda through. We're stuck with these fuckers for the next 3 1/2 years. I'd rather it be a wounded Trump than a fully empowered Pence. When were done, I don't want there to be any doubt of how terrible these people were.

 

[chandlerp]

Also, if he's impeached his core base will see it as a cue for civil war, same if they use the 25th to declare him unfit.

The best hope for America is to let him just fizzle out and hope he doesn't decide to launch a nuclear weapon

 

[8den]

(Total eclipse in the US on monday.)

The more time I've spent thinking about it, the less I want to see him impeached. He's so wounded now that there's little chance of getting some of his worst agenda through. We're stuck with these fuckers for the next 3 1/2 years. I'd rather it be a wounded Trump than a fully empowered Pence. When were done, I don't want there to be any doubt of how terrible these people were.

Jesus we're just over 6 months in, I'm not sure I could cope with 3 1/2 more years of "Y'know what uranium is?"

 

[petee]

I'd rather it be a wounded Trump than a fully empowered Pence.

agreed. pence would be able to get legislation through.
I'm banking on the party not re-nominating trump, but he's not going to go short of his term imo.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Jesus we're just over 6 months in, I'm not sure I could cope with 3 1/2 more years of "Y'know what uranium is?"

I'm not sure I can either. The evil is stacked so deep in the current administration, that we're in for 3 1/2 years of shite no matter who in the line of succession is President. I still think it would be better than if Pence took over, or, if some general decided it was a prime time for a military coup. The only course I can see, is to batten down the hatches and oppose his stupidity where we can.

 

[little_legs]

I'm banking on the party not re-nominating trump, but he's not going to go short of his term imo.

Not so fast. Donnie is now endorsing the candidates that are running against the Republicans he does not like. Case in point: Jeff Flake.

 

[teqniq]

Donald Trump is about to quit, according to the man who knows him best

 

[Tankus]

Why does he think that trumps resignation would stop Mueller ?

 

[maomao]

Why does he think that trumps resignation would stop Mueller ?

It's just clickbait. The 'man who knows him best' wrote a book about him in the 80s and the story is basically his Twitter feed.

 

[teqniq]

Ok so apologies for the clickbait.

Anyway this is more in keeping with the thread title.



The man has no shame. All this whilst condemning the Barcelona attack and being mealy-mouthed over Charlottesville. He is a complete disgrace.

 

[little_legs]

 

[little_legs]

 

[a_chap]

Maybe think twice about what you post, eh?

Which would be the end of U75, Shirley.

Post first, think later. Those is the rulez

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

More news from the world of the Trump Deplorables:

Most people who are on the Trump train say they are definitely, absolutely never getting off -- no matter what.
Six in 10 people who approve of President Donald Trump (61%) say they can't think of anything Trump could do that would make them disapprove of his job as President, according to a Monmouth University poll released this week.

6 in 10 Trump approvers say they will never, ever, ever stop approving - CNNPolitics

 

[D'wards]

More news from the world of the Trump Deplorables:



6 in 10 Trump approvers say they will never, ever, ever stop approving - CNNPolitics

But 4 in 10 would stop approving then. If the democrats get their gubbins together they can really make him a one termer. If the ratings are to be believed he has a very low approval rating. 3 1/2 years is a long time though

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Some of the smarter ones are starting to come around:

One of President Donald Trump's most vocal supporters confessed Thursday that he now regrets his vote, saying Trump "continues to prove his harshest critics right."

In a New York Times column published Thursday, Julius Krein, the founder and editor of pro-Trump political journal American Affairs, criticized Trump for failing to fulfill campaign promises.

"Those of us who supported Mr. Trump were never so naïve as to expect that he would transform himself into a model of presidential decorum upon taking office. But our calculation was that a few cringe-inducing tweets were an acceptable trade-off for a successful governing agenda," Krein wrote. "Yet after more than 200 days in office, Mr. Trump’s behavior grows only more reprehensible. Meanwhile, his administration has no significant legislative accomplishments — and no apparent plan to deliver any."

"Far from making the transformative 'deals' he promised voters, his only talent appears to be creating grotesque media frenzies — just as all his critics said," he added.

Prominent Supporter of President Trump Admits He Regrets His Vote

 

[CrabbedOne]

On War On The Rocks WHAT I SAW IN CHARLOTTESVILLE AND WHAT WE ALL LOST

Jewish ex-military guy turned up with his wife to peacefully protest. His background offers an interesting perspective.

...
I am a retired military officer who spent much of his career in Latin America, often in countries where street clashes are a common occurrence. During my time with U.S. Southern Command we worked to professionalize militaries that played too prominent a role in domestic strife. I never expected to see what I saw overseas play out on the avenues of an idyllic southern college town in the state I call home, making me question whether our military was involved enough. The events in Charlottesville left me a bit shaken, but determined to try to contribute to a sober discussion of what this might mean. What follows is an account, as best as my wife and I can recollect, of what we saw on Saturday, Aug. 12 in Charlottesville, followed by some perspective on the issues I think events demand we confront.
...

Appalled by the white nationalists but clearly not enchanted by some of the counter-protesters.

...
While walking away, we saw a reporter from New York being interviewed on camera, visibly shaken, as he had witnessed the terrorist attack with the car driving into a crowd. He was sure that someone had been severely injured and was concerned the perpetrator might get away despite the police presence.

We came upon another small group of people who appeared to be from the white nationalist crowd. A young woman in the group received the information about the car attack on her phone and yelled out an expletive, seemingly upset that she was missing some of the real action. She handed her backpack to one of her compatriots, pulled a whip from her back pocket and said, “I have a gun.” She then ran off, presumably in the direction of where she thought the attack was. Her intentions were unclear, but I sensed she wanted to be “in the fight.” My wife and I headed in the opposite direction.

On our way, we found ourselves back near the bank where the earlier confrontation occurred. A line of police was deployed across the pedestrian-only street that runs through downtown. One woman, apparently a counter-protester, seemed to focus her ire on the police, calling their behavior “not normal.” It seemed the rage against the racists was transforming into a more generic anger at “the man.” The woman got perhaps 20 to 30 people to start chanting with her and seemed to want to spark a larger confrontation. It was hard to tell whether she was mad at the police for not going after the white nationalists or mad that she was being stopped from doing so. We left before any altercation occurred.

The counter-protesters seemed to run the gamut from faith-based groups led by clergy, to Black Lives Matter, to one group calling itself communist and another revolutionary, to anti-Trump enthusiasts and some just generally angry people.

We then read on Facebook that Mayor Singer was asking people to go home, and we decided to listen. We walked back to our car. On our way home we stopped to eat on the outskirts of the city and watched some of the footage of what happened on CNN. Watching some of the more violent images I think my wife and I both had the same reaction: “What the hell is going on in this country?”
...

Sees a danger of the US turning into a banana republic.

...
I must be clear that I draw no moral equivalency between the two sides in Charlottesville. One stands for hatred and the other against. My wife and I know what side we will always be on.

The promise of democracy is not that it will always select good and honest leaders or that it will always make just and fair laws, but rather that people can seek change free of fear and violence by the state or their fellow citizens. This must be preserved. If incidents like this are allowed to continue and escalate, as I often saw in the Southern Hemisphere, people will look to the military to relieve the overwhelmed police. When the praetorians seize power, restoration of public order is almost always a proximate cause. We can’t let that happen here.

Dr. King taught us all that violence and hate are most effectively countered with non-violence and love. Sadly, we may need to re-learn that lesson.

This isn't just an affront to US liberals. These are very dangerous forces for the incendiary Trump to toy with.

It only took a handful of direct force numpties on both sides to kick off The Troubles in N.I. from what had been a peaceful, civic minded attempt to modernise minority rights. A majority population seeing its political dominance eroded did not take it well. We ended up with the military on the streets. A former far right US activist completely unsurprised by what seems like an escalating situation was saying on a Podcast I heard a couple of days ago if you map high gun ownership counties onto heavily GOP voting counties you get a near perfect match. That's some dry tinder.

 

[DotCommunist]

a handful of direct force numpties on both sides

next week on 'crabbed one does potted histories for all' he explains the roots of the conflict that go a little deeper than 'a handful on either side' getting tasty and then a 'neutral' army being on the streets.

 

[maomao]

On War On The Rocks WHAT I SAW IN CHARLOTTESVILLE AND WHAT WE ALL LOST

Jewish ex-military guy turned up with his wife to peacefully protest. His background offers an interesting perspective.
Appalled by the white nationalists but clearly not enchanted by some of the counter-protesters.Sees a danger of the US turning into a banana republic.This isn't just an affront to US liberals. These are very dangerous forces for the incendiary Trump to toy with.

It only took a handful of direct force numpties on both sides to kick off The Troubles in N.I. from what had been a peaceful, civic minded attempt to modernise minority rights. A majority population seeing its political dominance eroded did not take it well. We ended up with the military on the streets. A former far right US activist completely unsurprised by what seems like an escalating situation was saying on a Podcast I heard a couple of days ago if you map high gun ownership counties onto heavily GOP voting counties you get a near perfect match. That's some dry tinder.

I'm not denying any connection between Trump and the far right because there obviously is something going on there but this really belongs (in as much as blog style posting belongs anywhere on a discussion board) on the Charlottesville thread.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Trump pushes debunked 'pig's blood' myth, hours after Barcelona attack - BBC News

Trump tweeting utter bollcoks once again

 

[rekil]

next week on 'crabbed one does potted histories for all' he explains the roots of the conflict that go a little deep than 'a handful on either side' getting tasty and then a 'neutral' army being on the streets.

Apart from yet more of his handwavy Ireland bluffing, there's this bit where he strains to align the witness account with his own both sides as bad as each other pussyfooting.

Appalled by the white nationalists but clearly not enchanted by some of the counter-protesters.

Unfortunately he includes an awkward quote from the witness.

I must be clear that I draw no moral equivalency between the two sides in Charlottesville. One stands for hatred and the other against. My wife and I know what side we will always be on.

 

[maomao]

next week on 'crabbed one does potted histories for all' he explains the roots of the conflict that go a little deeper than 'a handful on either side' getting tasty and then a 'neutral' army being on the streets.

I'm surprised he didn't manage to relate the situation to his experience of working with Indian IT people in the valley. It's always NI or Indian IT people.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm surprised he didn't manage to relate the situation to his experience of working with Indian IT people in the valley. It's always NI or Indian IT people.

this is unfair, sometimes we get to hear about ordoliberal krauts or chauvinist hicks from 'flyover states' who secretly love mining so much they drive massive cars and vote trump.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

.

 

[rekil]

A sentimental attachment to well paid but grim work underground and the communities it spawned is understandable.

Third time I've mentioned this doc as an antidote to this relentless drivel.

Blood on the Mountain (2016) - IMDb