What Now for the BNP?

[malatesta32]

hey bigman, there's a punfest on the simon & garfunkel thread calling your name!

 

[Pickman's model]

so brons has left the bnp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/16/bnp-andrew-brons-resigns-mep

 

[Citizen66]

Observers of the British far right predict Brons is set to launch a new party in competition with the BNP.

More division. Jolly good.

 

[Pickman's model]

it's strange how searchlight hit the shops yesterday but their vaunted intelligence network within the far right didn't give them an inkling this was going to happen.

it's a pity that brons didn't pass this snippet onto his auld mate ray hill

 

[audiotech]

Ray Hill speaking at the Cambridge Union in 2009.

Have a listen Pickman's, to Ray talking about his windows being put through every week and a calor gas bottle placed outside his home, when the fascists attempted to "slaughter" Ray and his family, including his young son, in order to silence him. He does mention Brons btw.

A very powerful speech and every credit to Ray Hill for that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ray Hill speaking at the Cambridge Union in 2009.

Have a listen Pickman's, to Ray talking about his windows being put through every week and a calor gas bottle placed outside his home, when the fascists attempted to "slaughter" Ray and his family, including his young son, in order to silence him. He does mention Brons btw.

A very powerful speech and every credit to Ray Hill for that.

I already heard hill speak in manchester 18 or 19 years ago

 

[audiotech]

it's strange how searchlight hit the shops yesterday but their vaunted intelligence network within the far right didn't give them an inkling this was going to happen.l

You must not have read last months Searchlight Pickman's, because in that issue it is mentioned that a "Bradford based would-be alternative to the BNP", the Democratic Nationalists (DN), is "supported" by yes, you've guessed it, one Andrew Brons.

 

[audiotech]

I already heard hill speak in manchester 18 or 19 years ago

Yes, but the one posted is from 2009 and a lot has changed since 18/19 years ago, that is reflected in Hill's talk.

 

[Pickman's model]

You must not have read last months Searchlight Pickman's, because in that issue it is mentioned that a "Bradford based would-be alternative to the BNP", the Democratic Nationalists (DN), is "supported" by yes, you've guessed it, one Andrew Brons.

Ab supports x does not equal ab resigns from y

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I suspect 90% of the much vaunted intelligence network is now with HnH

 

[butchersapron]

You must not have read last months Searchlight Pickman's, because in that issue it is mentioned that a "Bradford based would-be alternative to the BNP", the Democratic Nationalists (DN), is "supported" by yes, you've guessed it, one Andrew Brons.

Why ever would searchlight say such a thing?

 

[audiotech]

Thinking that Brons was about to jump ship?

 

[butchersapron]

It's not like searchlight to try and provoke internal turmoil by spreading rumours at all is it?

 

[audiotech]

The internal turmoil has been apparent for all to see for sometime now. Griffin et al are well aware of the MO of Searchlight. Did Brons jump, or was he pushed?

 

[audiotech]

I suspect 90% of the much vaunted intelligence network is now with HnH

Bit of a spat with this one, as it appears HnH's intelligence is mainly trawling facebook and other social media, exposing openly fascists and racists, who are err fascists and racists.

 

[butchersapron]

The internal turmoil has been apparent for all to see for sometime now. Griffin et al are well aware of the MO of Searchlight. Did Brons jump, or was he pushed?

Why does it matter if griffin is well aware of the MO of searchlight? What difference does that make to the way that searchlight operate and how you evaluate their claims?

 

[Pickman's model]

Thinking that Brons was about to jump ship?

if you take a step forwards one month and bother reading this month's searchlight, you'll note that (in the article about fash watering holes) they state they want to stir things up. given that there has been much ink spilled over brons' relationship with the bnp over the last 18 months, him leaving has been on the cards for some time.

 

[audiotech]

I suspect Searchlight's MO keeps Griffin on his guard at all times. Searchlight would need to adapt to keep a step ahead and as for me evaluating their claims? I can, like others, only speculate as to what is going on.

 

[Pickman's model]

searchlight have adapted by stopping carrying news in briefs. the magazine's bloody awful nowadays.

 

[audiotech]

if you take a step forwards one month and bother reading this month's searchlight, you'll note that (in the article about fash watering holes) they state they want to stir things up. given that there has been much ink spilled over brons' relationship with the bnp over the last 18 months, him leaving has been on the cards for some time.

I have read this months Searchlight and I'm well aware that Brons position in the BNP has been under some pressure for some considerable time.

 

[Pickman's model]

I have read this months Searchlight and I'm well aware that Brons position in the BNP has been under some pressure for some considerable time.

you are now.

 

[audiotech]

searchlight have adapted by stopping carrying news in briefs. the magazine's bloody awful nowadays.

It's been severely affected by the split.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's been severely affected by the split.

it hasn't been much good for years.

 

[audiotech]

you are now.

I was aware sometime ago. I understood it was only a matter of time before he went. I was surprised when Brons surfaced to stand as an MEP, as he'd gone under the radar here in Yorkshire.

 

[The39thStep]

What now for Searchlight?

 

[audiotech]

it hasn't been much good for years.

Debatable. There was an interesting report from a stormy meeting in Leeds not long back, with Collett wobbling like a jelly.

 

[audiotech]

What now for Searchlight?

Yes, this is the most pertinent question for Searchlight now.

 

[The39thStep]

Debatable. There was an interesting report from a stormy meeting in Leeds not long back, with Collett wobbling like a jelly.

Obviously before he was expelled two years ago .I thought he was around the English Democrats now.

 

[bignose1]

it's strange how searchlight hit the shops yesterday but their vaunted intelligence network within the far right didn't give them an inkling this was going to happen.

it's a pity that brons didn't pass this snippet onto his auld mate ray hill

Thats shows a lack of understanding re the intelligence game pickers....

 

[Pickman's model]

Thats shows a lack of understanding re the intelligence game pickers....

only if you take everything i write at face value. it's only a cheap shot at searchlight, but then searchlight are famous for only sharing their information on their terms. clearly the october edition would never have said 'brons will defect in a few days'.