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What Does the US Election Result Mean for the World?

Aldebaren sumed it up better than I.

"If I give an opinion on the US on these boards it shall usually not be as independend rationally reasoning historian but as a person who has to deal daily with his incurable, irreparable grief caused by the USA."
 
marksl said:
Aldebaren sumed it up better than I.

"If I give an opinion on the US on these boards it shall usually not be as independend rationally reasoning historian but as a person who has to deal daily with his incurable, irreparable grief caused by the USA."
If it's allowable to make comments and have opinions about the US based on emotion, then others can make comments and have opinions about islam etc based on emotion.
 
They already do Johnny. Ever been to american based internet forums? The views there would make even you ashamed of north america. They are filled with anti islam comments bigotry and emotional rants.

Although on these forums we may dislike Us policies but don't call for its destruction.

What you should understand the US beneath its pretences and myths acts very hostile to the outside world once wake up to it and see it, your view also changes.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
If it's allowable to make comments and have opinions about the US based on emotion, then others can make comments and have opinions about islam etc based on emotion.

You can react "emotionally" on whatever you like but your "comparison" has no ground at all.
1. The USA is a nation. "Islam" is a religion, hence not a nation.
2. I said that if I reason purely academically, I would comment in that context. So far I fail to see where you are able to bring forward any academic approach on or about Islam.
3. Even withouth the very personal aspects of my experiences with the US foreign policies in my region, there are still thousands of reasons by which I can criticize them - or at the very least many aspects thereof - both speaking as private person and as academic.
4. I very much doubt you have any such personal experiences with the religion Islam.

salaam.
 
marksl said:
They already do Johnny. Ever been to american based internet forums?

I was, being the only Middle Eastern/Arab/Muslim posting while they were in full "yellow ribbons for our Heros" and "support our troops" mode.
The arrogant and casual talks about invading sovereign nations murdering their populations as if it was "their right" was breathtaking. The times they posted that the Middle East or "all Muslims" or "Mecca" etc.. should be "nuked" and "turned into a glass desert" were countless.
It was an almost surreal experience to jump into that hateful pool, but I learned many US "insult" expressions and other vulgarities :) I got banned from two of them. From one board I received more then a year later still hate mails (I left that mail address open as an experiment) both from members and administrators. Some still chat about me on offshoots of that board and in their "live journals" (This I know from other members, they were not all "against" me).

The third US board I posted on was more balanced, probably because it was such a very big board with over 17000 members. Nevertheless I got banned from the "military forum", clearly designed to sing the glory of the Heros. After which I asked for all my posts to be deleted (which they did) and left.

Then I discovered Urban75... After reading some threads I thought it was Message Board Heaven :)

salaam.
 
sadly I believe it means that we are more likely than if it had gone otherwise to get another GOP president in 2008. :mad: :(

The voters have vented their anger at the Bush administration now. The Democrats now have 2 entire years to disappoint and fail to fix the things people were angry about, and by the time the next election rolls around, the Democrat voters will be apathetic, and the swing voters will be swinging away.

Arrgghhh.
 
Well, seeing as they're making loud noises about all these investigations and such like, and not much else (admittedly I've not heard, or tried to find out, much since the election and its aftermath), it will depend on whether they catch the Republicans out and nail some Bad Stuff on them.

If the enquiries go well enough, they should be OK. Hard to be apathetic when you're government is falling apart around you. It's not something I'd like to have as my main election campaign, though.

The Democrats have definitely got the hardest job to do in the next few years. They've got to show the Republicans up for what most people think they are; present themselves as a better option with new ideas of their own and force positive changes regarding Iraq. Tough job! I doubt they can/will do it...
 
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