Westminster sexual abuse scandals
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
The people who went through Damian Green's computer?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I heard today on R4 that the Westminster IT system blocks some 800 attempts per day to access porn.
Again, if a civil servant, soldier or police officer did it our disciplinary systems would crash in with some speed and great force - disciplinary systems mandated by Parliament...
Wankers.
Again, if a civil servant, soldier or police officer did it our disciplinary systems would crash in with some speed and great force - disciplinary systems mandated by Parliament...
Wankers.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Well, QED.
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
Not sure I need the demonstrandum, thank you. It's tea time
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
People editing porn filmsWho the fuck watches porn at work? Ffs, do some work
Desperate shit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A lot of them pay for discipline
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
and anyone in any big private sector business would be sacked on the spot for even trying. (which doesn't invalidate what you said)
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Not the right kind.
bemused
Well-Known Member
I see some MPs are asking for an independent body for people to report abuse to. Isn't it simply time to end MPs employing their own staff, ending years of political patronage and move all these people into the Civil Service? If an MP needs a researcher, secretary, etc that can work for the Government and use the standard HR practices to protect them. Whenever they are caught doing something shitty we end up with another public body to make sure they don't do it anymore.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Civil servants can't be used in party political contexts (in theory anyway) and that's part of the job of an MP's staff?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
MP's staff shouldn't be used for party political contexts either, and nor should any of their publicly-funded stationery, interwebs or travel allowance.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
I'd just like to access my work e-mail mod IT systems immune to hacking as no one would notice if it was hacked or not.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
They'd be in a very sticky situation.
elbows
Well-Known Member
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I would imagine parliament has gold standard protection for its IT in terms of protection, but just about nil with regards to what MPs can view.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
In the lines they come out with, some of these fuckers sound like the dreadful gropey bosses from some awful 1960s sitcom. Which, transported to the 21st Century is exactly what they are. It really is the banality of evil.
EYEisBloke
New Member
Holding a mirror up to your hypocritically abusive, gendered language?
If you can't debunk the elephant in the chat room, a more effective strategy would be just to ignore it.
Fuck off. No one wants you here. CUNT.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Self awareness not your thing then? Or was your post just being ironic?
Having had a look at your you tube offerings, they seem to be almost entirely elephant.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Makes her sound like a cheapo pipe tobacco. Result!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
This is probably not going to be too popular but isn't some of this going too far? I've got a bit habituated to some of this over the the last weeks and the real stuff is getting lost amongst the noise of the low level or, imo, irrelevant revelations which is probably the intention of some of the leakers.
Obviously the genuine cases of abuse and harassment need to be looked at. Corbyn probably has some questions to answer regarding Hopkins, situations where people have been upset or put under pressure to do things must be dealt with, serial sex pests outed, and any rape claims should be thoroughly investigated by the police. But blokes with a penchant for fucking other consenting blokes, someone putting their hand on someone's knee (who wasn't particularly bothered by it) 10 years ago, people using prostitutes or having legal porn on their computer when Noah was a boy; who gives a toss?
This weekend Mrs Spy and I were talking about a situation that occurred last week. One of her female colleagues heard a senior director call her "gorgeous". The colleague has been badgering Kris to make a complaint which is the last thing she's going to do. She's worked with the bloke for over 10 years and he's never been in the slightest sleazy (unless you count calling her "gorgeous", which she doesn't), is a hugely supportive boss and a genuinely well liked fellow who we also know socially. The colleague said that if she wasn't going to make a formal complaint then Kris should at least tell him not to do it again. And risk ruining a perfectly good relationship over something that doesn't bother her? Perhaps fucking up his career? Really?
Are there situations where some of what's being termed abusive or harassing are really being pumped-up beyond reason?
Obviously the genuine cases of abuse and harassment need to be looked at. Corbyn probably has some questions to answer regarding Hopkins, situations where people have been upset or put under pressure to do things must be dealt with, serial sex pests outed, and any rape claims should be thoroughly investigated by the police. But blokes with a penchant for fucking other consenting blokes, someone putting their hand on someone's knee (who wasn't particularly bothered by it) 10 years ago, people using prostitutes or having legal porn on their computer when Noah was a boy; who gives a toss?
This weekend Mrs Spy and I were talking about a situation that occurred last week. One of her female colleagues heard a senior director call her "gorgeous". The colleague has been badgering Kris to make a complaint which is the last thing she's going to do. She's worked with the bloke for over 10 years and he's never been in the slightest sleazy (unless you count calling her "gorgeous", which she doesn't), is a hugely supportive boss and a genuinely well liked fellow who we also know socially. The colleague said that if she wasn't going to make a formal complaint then Kris should at least tell him not to do it again. And risk ruining a perfectly good relationship over something that doesn't bother her? Perhaps fucking up his career? Really?
Are there situations where some of what's being termed abusive or harassing are really being pumped-up beyond reason?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
No one is being done for merely 'putting their hand on someone's knee' - that was just one incident in what seems to be (from the other reports) a pattern of behaviour. No one is saying everyone on that Tory list is an evil abuser who should be punished. These are complete misnomers. The only people complaining about possible witchhunts are shitebags like EYEisWanker, or the lefties I mentioned above trying to minimise their own history of sexual abuse.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
oh I found a website for EYE. Its all about jess philips and rape threats. Like the videos.And the posts here. Obsessed.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It's not just patterns of behaviour though is it. There are loads of "one-off" scenarios in the mix. I don't think it's witch-hunting but perhaps that an atmosphere is being created where people are immediately encouraged to report or condemn behaviour that previously wouldn't be considered outrageous and if looked at dispassionately now probably still wouldn't. In quite a few cases it's simply nobody else's fucking business. At what point is career, and possibly family destruction deserved?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The one you quoted was. In the other 'cases', nothing seems to have happened. No one has had their career anything like destroyed for single incidents, or for consensual sex.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
in fact the reportage of the consensual sex and gossip such as that is serving to give cover and provoke thoughts like yours spy.
and give the likes of hitchens ammo to go on like loon. Not that he requires much prodding.
and give the likes of hitchens ammo to go on like loon. Not that he requires much prodding.
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