Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
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Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
And for comparative purposes, here's the B36 with it's older brother, the B29:B 36 6 piston driven pusher engines and 4 jet engines.
The wings were so thick at the root a man could stand up inside them. Its empty weight was 75 tonnes.
The victory bomber was a very serious project by Barnes Wallis
But the performance of the Merlin engine meant that Lancasters could do a similar job as it was designed for.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Republic Rainbow. The last hurrah of big multi-engine, piston engined military aviation and what a beauty she was.
400 mph for 4,000 miles at 40,000 feet.
400 mph for 4,000 miles at 40,000 feet.
Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
Even on the ground she's like 'bitch, I'll steal your man':Republic Rainbow. The last hurrah of big multi-engine, piston engined military aviation and what a beauty she was.
400 mph for 4,000 miles at 40,000 feet.
I'd never heard of this, though:
"For night reconnaissance missions, the XF-12 had a large hold in the belly which accommodated 18 high-intensity photo-flash bombs; these were ejected over the target area."
But I suppose it makes sense, that you couldn't wait for a bright moon or the like.
Republic XF-12 Rainbow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
coley
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Beer Bombs: Britain's Keg-Carrying Spitfires of World War Two - Urban Ghosts Media
According to the Spitfire Site: “the Heneger and Constable brewery donated free beer to the troops. After D-Day… there was no room in the logistics chain for such luxuries as beer or other types of refreshments. Some men, often called “sourcers”, were able to get wine or other niceties “from the land” or rather from the locals. RAF Spitfire pilots came up with an even better idea.”
Pylons mounted beneath the wings of Spitfire Mk IX fighters, designed to carry fuel tanks or bombs, could be modified to carry kegs of beer. In some cases, an adapted version of a long range fuel tank was also used for ale carriage and even received an official designation, Mod. XXX. Spitfire Site reports how aircraft equipped with the necessary beer keg mountings or Mod. XXX often had to return to the UK for “maintenance” or “liaison duties”, only to arrive back in Normandy carrying vital supplies for the war effort – chilled to perfection at 2,000 feet.
It wasn’t long, however, before Britain’s HM Customs and Excise caught on and warned the brewery that it was violating the law by exporting beer without paying tax. And as Spitfire Site reports: “It seems that Mod. XXX was terminated then, but various squadrons found different ways to refurbish their stocks. Most often, this was done with the unofficial approval of higher echelons.”
In the middle of the war and HM customs found time to interfere!?Hope that bit was 'tongue in cheek'
coley
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Looks like some bugger has mated a Lysander with the arse end of a Lancaster?
coley
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Bout time Quantas started disassembling theirs!
coley
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Tacit Blue
Wtf is it?
coley
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There are quite a few clips on YouTube about Russian cargo planes using up every available inch of the runway before managing to rotate. This here is a prime example. I would not have liked being in the cockpit...
We have 'Smirnoff'
coley
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Wtf is going on there? Air ship/ balloon lifting assistance?
mauvais
on reddit or something
Russian rocket stage carrier. Like a precursor to Airbus' Guppy/Beluga or the 747-based shuttle lifter.
This, I think:
Myasishchev VM-T - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
coley
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What are they?
coley
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Ta, always found it weird how aircraft can seemingly 'piggy back' loads bigger than the actual aircraft!?
mauvais
on reddit or something
Big but proportionately lightweight (often empty & hollow) things, that's why - doesn't change the CoG enough to be a problem.
coley
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Again Ta, urban, quality answers for technobiffs
gosub
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A jet version would be cool as fuck
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Shut up and take my money.
gosub
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Would make the same orrible noise as the Piaggio Avanti
opps no, its not even a turboprop. US $700,000
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There are some similarities with the cirrus jet
Cirrus Aircraft | Vision Jet
It looks like a jet could be added, may have to change the shape a bit to move the center of gravity to the correct position.
gosub
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There are some similarities with the cirrus jet
Cirrus Aircraft | Vision Jet
It looks like a jet could be added, may have to change the shape a bit to move the center of gravity to the correct position.
that is a massive type variation
gosub
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Notice I used the word ' some'
I was talking about fitting a jet. Its a massive headache just getting a different make of engine type approved let alone an entirely different type of propulsion, then you've got the differing speeds affect on control surfaces and stall speed.
Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
While certain posters would have us believe that aeronautical stupidity was the sole preserve of the dear old USSR, there are some peculiar things going on on American shores as well.
Take this 'convertiplane' thing, for example:
Why the U.S. Air Force scuttled the deadly 'convertiplane'
Take this 'convertiplane' thing, for example:
Why the U.S. Air Force scuttled the deadly 'convertiplane'
Like some of the planes in this thread it was trying achieve something that couldn't be done with the technology available. With more powerful engines, lighter materials and fly by wire we have, the f35. Which has a door that opens up in the fuselage and a lift fan to provide extra lift.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Thats an interesting interperation. Most history of the defeat of the Luftwaffe focuses on the US going after the fuel and aircraft factories in February 44 when they pretty much annihilated the fighter squadrons over a couple of weeks starting with Big Week.
The Allies only really unleashed the fighters on the airfields after Jagdwaffe had been pretty much destroyed.
And knowing things like this is why people call me a nerd.
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Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
Now this is interesting. The return of the airship has been just around the corner for as long as I can remember, but this one might actually be a goer:
"The ALERT military airship is designed to carry out long-range patrols, and transport men and machines over the vast Canadian arctic. The idea behind the concept is to provide assistance along the recently opened Northwest Passage, a trade route which is almost completely devoid of infrastructure. The ALERT could carry out critical missions and provide search and rescue capabilities along this increasingly important route."
ALERT Military Airship concept - Diseno-art
It's the increasing importance of the route it would patrol that makes it intriguing as a candidate for actual future construction.
Though mind you, this piece from the Globe and Mail of Toronto - Alert: A military airship concept for Arctic missions - notes that the ALERT is the brainchild of an Indian (from India) firm called Lunatic Koncepts. Which is perhaps not a good omen.
"The ALERT military airship is designed to carry out long-range patrols, and transport men and machines over the vast Canadian arctic. The idea behind the concept is to provide assistance along the recently opened Northwest Passage, a trade route which is almost completely devoid of infrastructure. The ALERT could carry out critical missions and provide search and rescue capabilities along this increasingly important route."
ALERT Military Airship concept - Diseno-art
It's the increasing importance of the route it would patrol that makes it intriguing as a candidate for actual future construction.
Though mind you, this piece from the Globe and Mail of Toronto - Alert: A military airship concept for Arctic missions - notes that the ALERT is the brainchild of an Indian (from India) firm called Lunatic Koncepts. Which is perhaps not a good omen.
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