Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

[smokedout]

I'm saying, as well you know, that you will not find one muslim girl on the streets of Bradford selling her body.

Not one.

utter bollocks

 

[pk]

how is that possible though. i thopught it could never happen that muslim men could be involved in pimping muslim women, are they secretly trafficking girls from bolton on the quiet

They're allowed to pimp the slaves.

Not their own kind though. I'm sure it happens, for the right price.

But not in Bradford.

 

[pk]

ignore his crap, its just not fucking true, speaking as someone who lived and was brought up there rather than enjoying a middle class holiday

Middle class holiday LOL!

I'm not the one that actually paid for sex in Bradford, thus perpetuating the misery...

Is that what this is about? Guilt?

 

[pk]

utter bollocks

Prove it. Just ONE example of a muslim girl being pimped out by muslim men.

Only one! Preferably from Bradford.

 

[pk]

Women on their own get hassled by men of all religions and races, in every country in the world.

But you seem to think its just muslims.

Where have I said "it's just muslims" ??

Oh, I didn't - you just made that up to try and win the argument. Well done.

 

[IC3D]

The Muslims and the Jews don't deal in original sin. That's a "Christians only" club.

They're all pretty hung up about the old in out.

 

[smokedout]

They're allowed to pimp the slaves.

Not their own kind though. I'm sure it happens, for the right price.

what about in Iran, where i believe prostitution is legal under certain conditions

love your last line btw, kind of sums up your position on this thread, this never happens except i'm sure it happens

But not in Bradford.

i could fucking name one mate

 

[dylans]

Thing is - there isn't explicit permission for rape in the religious book you quoted in the same way there is in islamic scripts.

Thing is..There is..

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance.

Judges 21:10-24 NLT

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Deuteronomy 21:10-14

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 )

Judges 5:30

The Bible is full of horrible stuff like this.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

Speaking up about it without fear of being labelled a racist is a start. Old Jack Straw has managed that at least.

No I mean what are Uk white communities going to do about white nonces in Thailand and Cambodia.

I don't think you're a racist, I think you're and idiot. You still haven't said what is going to be done about crucifixes in gangsta rap videos and the misogyny and sexism that goes along with it and links to pimps. And now we have the examples of christian texts.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

I'm saying, as well you know, that you will not find one muslim girl on the streets of Bradford selling her body.

So are you saying you want to see more muslim prostitutes. Strange.

 

[pk]

Thing is..There is..


(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

Judges 21:10-24 NLT



Judges 21:10-24 NLT)


(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)


Deuteronomy 21:10-14


Judges 5:30

The Bible is full of horrible stuff like this.

OK, well fair play - the difference being there aren't preachers banging on about it to sexually frustrated young men who often look at western infidel women as all being mere whores.

 

[pk]

So are you saying you want to see more muslim prostitutes. Strange.

Of course that isn't what I'm saying. As you know full well.

 

[pk]

I think you're and idiot.

OK mate.

 

[dylans]

OK, well fair play - the difference being there aren't preachers banging on about it to sexually frustrated young men who often look at western infidel women as all being mere whores.

Yes there is

 

[smokedout]

OK mate.

you havent come across as the sharpest tool on this thread pk

 

[IC3D]

Everyones argument now comes down to rape goes on all the time so the issue is resloved and we shouldn't mention cultural or religious justifications because thats racist. Can we start blaming the victim's now and move on.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

OK, well fair play - the difference being there aren't preachers banging on about it to sexually frustrated young men who often look at western infidel women as all being mere whores.

I imagine that these blokes doing this are regularly going down the mosque to get advice.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

Everyones argument now comes down to rape goes on all the time so the issue is resloved and we shouldn't mention cultural or religious justifications because thats racist. Can we start blaming the victim's now and move on.

Not sure anyone has said that. There might be cultural reasons whether it's the example in the OP or white blokes going out to Thailand or any other example.

What is ridiculous is to say there is homogeneous pakistani or white community that should take responsibility for it or should do anything about it. They are problems for society as a whole.

Not sure what racism has got to do with it.

 

[dylans]

Everyones argument now comes down to rape goes on all the time so the issue is resloved and we shouldn't mention cultural or religious justifications because thats racist. Can we start blaming the victim's now and move on.

There are no cultural or religious justifications. They are just scumbags and they know they are scumbags and every one who knows them knows they are scumbags and everyone, Muslim or none Muslim knows they are scumbags. End of. All the rest is just bollocks.

 

[IC3D]

Not sure anyone has said that. There might be cultural reasons whether it's the example in the OP or white blokes going out to Thailand or any other example.

What cultural reasons could be behind it then? The Thailand example is terrible cos they're all at

 

[IC3D]

There are no cultural or religious justifications. They are just scumbags and they know they are scumbags and every one who knows them knows they are scumbags and everyone, Muslim or none Muslim knows they are scumbags. End of. All the rest is just bollocks.

They're not targeting girls in their community which show prejudice for a start

 

[dylans]

They're not targeting girls in their community which show prejudice for a start

No it shows opportunism. They were targeting vulnerable powerless young women who they could manipulate and abuse.

 

[One_Stop_Shop]

They're not targeting girls in their community which show prejudice for a start

Just as there are many white men who see other women as a bit exotic and go out to places like Thailand, but have their white wife at home. This also show prejudice. Who is going to deny that there are prejudices of "our women" bollox, it needs to be taken on wherever it is by society as a whole. But given the chance to abuse "their own" I'm sure these blokes would.

The Thailand example is terrible cos they're all at it

Oh dear.

 

[smokedout]

No it shows opportunism. They were targeting vulnerable powerless young women who they could manipulate and abuse.

precisely, race doesnt fucking come into it, if they found a young, vulnerable muslim girl theyd treat her just the same (and possibly did in the case referred to in the op, given three of the girls were asian)

it aint rocket science, you want to find a girl to lure into sex and vice, do you pick the conservative imans daughter next door or the fucked up kid from the hostel down the road

theyre nasty fucking pricks, they dont think about shit like this, they do whats easy and what offers least chance of getting caught

 

[IC3D]

precisely, race doesnt fucking come into it, if they found a young, vulnerable muslim girl theyd treat her just the same (and possibly did in the case referred to in the op, given three of the girls were asian)

it aint rocket science, you want to find a girl to lure into sex and vice, do you pick the conservative imans daughter next door or the fucked up kid from the hostel down the road

theyre nasty fucking pricks, they dont think about shit like this, they do whats easy and what offers least chance of getting caught

The whole this goes on all the time is so weak its untrue, do honestly think there is no more to this than 'they are nasty men'

 

[smokedout]

The whole this goes on all the time is so weak its untrue, do honestly think there is no more to this than 'they are nasty men'

yes

the sex industry is massive, around 80,000 women a year are raped, its fucking grim

 

[dylans]

The whole this goes on all the time is so weak its untrue, do honestly think there is no more to this than 'they are nasty men'

If some white Bloke did this would you think there was no more to this than he is a nasty man?

 

[IC3D]

If some white Bloke did this would you think there was no more to this than he is a nasty man?

Do you think that humanity is one humongous identy that share the same values and there is never any conflict between contridictory systems.

 

[IC3D]

yes

the sex industry is massive, around 80,000 women a year are raped, its fucking grim

Are you one of these people that think prostition is rape cos its been a bit clouded on the Thailand stuff

 

[smokedout]

Are you one of these people that think prostition is rape cos its been a bit clouded on the Thailand stuff

no as it goes, admittedly i didnt phrase what i meant very well

80,000 women a year are raped in this country, in the context of that, this handful of cases means very fucking little