Why is this in general and not the drugs forum?
I thought the drugs forum was for recreational highs rather than, say, aspirin for headaches and other medicines.
Why is this in general and not the drugs forum?
The great thing about vape is that you can gently lower the dose. Like weltweit, I started high (18mg), and fairly rapidly found that the headshocks got bigger, so cut back to 9, then to 6. Currently moving from 3 to 1.5. I seem to need the "prop" it gives me, but am shortly going to embark on a massive life change which I might also harness into a good reason to drop the vape.No nicotine gives me terrible rabbit brain. I can’t concentrate, everything feels sketchy as fuck, irritable, foggy brain. That goes on for more than 24 hours for me, but I’ve never got past 3 days before I caved.
I’ve got a week off for half term soon and only one boy. I’m seriously thinking about giving it a crack.
I tend to hold mine in until what I breathe out has no visible vapour. I don't want it to be obvious I'm vaping.Big massive clouds of vapour.
Not sure how we've gone from those small discrete e-cigs to the big feck off ones that leave your head wreathed in smoke.
I’ve been vaping for just over a year now and fuck me isn’t it more expensive than it ought to be? From mods that fail within a month, coils that last ten minutes yet at least they’re not counterfeit, maintenance programmes and back-up battery plans that’d shame any hospital...
Experiences, good or bad.
I almost feel like fucking it off at times; just seems a money making scam for corrupt cunts.
What says you?
Nicotine is a medicine?!I thought the drugs forum was for recreational highs rather than, say, aspirin for headaches and other medicines.
I've been using one of these...
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for 2 years (well it's an earlier version, the Arc 3). No problems.
Coils last me 2 weeks.
Nicotine is a medicine?!
So any recreational drug becomes a medicine when you try to quit it?Plenty of products that aid giving up smoking contain nicotine.
Just because nicotine is a drab, repetitive, pointless, dopamine-itch-scratch-repeat, drug, doesn't mean it's not a recreational drug.
Just because nicotine is a drab, repetitive, pointless, dopamine-itch-scratch-repeat, drug, doesn't mean it's not a recreational drug.
Do you think people take nicotine lozenges for ‘recreational purposes’, or as an aid to combat addiction to smoking?
Nicotine is a medicine?!
Nicotine is a medicine?!
Tbh it's a vile industry, selling you fuck knows what chemicals in unsafe incinerators, much like smoking tbh only AFAIK it's different cunts getting rich off people breathing in things they shouldn't and its full effects will only be known in a few years. Unlike smoking which has been known for ages.
You know that vape liquids can be tested for composition, right? So it's not as if nobody knows what they contain. And what they do contain are ingredients that have been safely used for decades, including for human consumption (so we do know the effects already). Also if incineration is happening then you'd know about it, it makes it taste like shit and only happens with faulty equipment anyway.
Tell me how lovely it is being free of nicotine. I need some inspiration mate. I’m sick of being addicted to stuff. I know it’s only nicotine but the last time I didn’t have any addiction at all I was 14 I’d love to be free, and I’m on the cusp. Push me over
I admire your faith. There is no restriction on the sale of liquids, and there are many people bulk purchasing from China and splitting down for resale.
Unless you take the liquid to a lab and have it analysed, you do not know what is in it.
Frankly, vaping is about as safe as buying pills in a club, in neither case do you know for sure what you are getting.
You echo Mrs Sas's view on this. (Mine too, unregulated fluids, containing... who knows?)
Go to a doctor, get diagnosed with PVD, arteoreosclerosis (it comes with many names), get told you have only one unblocked artery (out of three) in your leg and the only (temporary) fix runs a risk of a 10% chance of amputation - amputation of YOUR leg, not something you are watching on the TV - and, well, pushed over yet?
I gave up that day. After 30 years of 20 a day.
That covers shops, it doesn't cover bulk importers selling to workmates etc.
I used gum and lozenges at work for a long time because I couldn't (chain) smoke or vape there. And I didn't see it as part of quitting.
What are you buying? I've had my mod at least 2 years. I replace the coil once a month, and buy 60ml bottles of liquid for are 2 for £22.50 including nic shots to go in them and last me 6-8 weeks. I probably spend 1/3 to 1/4 the amount of money I did when I properly smoked.I’ve been vaping for just over a year now and fuck me isn’t it more expensive than it ought to be? From mods that fail within a month, coils that last ten minutes yet at least they’re not counterfeit, maintenance programmes and back-up battery plans that’d shame any hospital...
Experiences, good or bad.
I almost feel like fucking it off at times; just seems a money making scam for corrupt cunts.
What says you?
What are you buying? I've had my mod at least 2 years. I replace the coil once a month, and buy 60ml bottles of liquid for are 2 for £22.50 including nic shots to go in them and last me 6-8 weeks. I probably spend 1/3 to 1/4 the amount of money I did when I properly smoked.
Taking your analogy a bit further, based on the research that has been done on the potential harm of vaping, then if vaping is like buying a pill in a club, then smoking is like finding a bag of smack on the floor and banging it up with a dirty needle.