pocketscience
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Things would be a whole lot rosier if the Kiev government could send theirLie upon lie from Kiev and the West, it's getting so crass. So what if Russians are fighting there, it's to be expected.
Things would be a whole lot rosier if the Kiev government could send theirLie upon lie from Kiev and the West, it's getting so crass. So what if Russians are fighting there, it's to be expected.
Not sure if this article from the Telegraph has been posted. It's a few weeks old now but I've only just stumbled across it. "Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists". Interesting part in it about foreign fighters from Ireland, Italy, Greece and Sweden, one of whom plans to travel to Syria and fight for Assad in the future.
very disturbing, they will surely be involved in atrocities at some point
Presumably as sincere as the apology you made following your ill-advised 'joke' about being mugged by a black man who you didn't see in the dark, cos they all look the sameand if she did take it as a racial slur i sincerely apologize while equally insisting it wasnt any such thing
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President Vladimir Putin blamed the Ukrainian government for the crisis, comparing its siege of two cities held by separatists, Donetsk and Luhansk, to the siege of Leningrad by the Nazis in World War Two.
"It is necessary to make the Ukrainian authorities start substantial talks [with the rebels]," he said." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28984241
So it seems the Russians now admit they have crossed the border and are openly supporting the rebels against the Kiev forces.
There is a big part of me going "Go on Putti Poot!"
Actually this is a good example of you twisting the meaning of what has been said. Earlier you said
Firstly he was saying that those who sponsored the "Donbass resistance" were subhumans not that they were. You also claim that he was saying that first they will wipe out the fighters and therefore when he says "cleaning our land", he can not be referring to the militias and therefore must be referring to the rest of the population as a whole. But what he said was "we will commemorate the heroes by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil." So he wasn't necessarily referring to all the fighters but those who specifically shot down the military plane. And therefore the 'evil' in the second part doesn't necessarily refer to the population as a whole and the most obvious interpretation is that it refers to the armed militias. And there is absolutely no indication that this was a declaration of intent to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine.
Firstly he was saying that those who sponsored the "Donbass resistance" were subhumans not that they were. .
Poroshenko announced that Ukraine will spend some $3 billion on re-equipping the army in 2015-2017
I wonder where he'll be buying the kit from and more importantly where the money's coming from?
##ts probably safe to say they already have been. The report mentions they have the most chilling reputation of all but doesnt stipulate how they earned it . saw an interview with one Donbass commander who openly states he orders his men to differentiate between those scum and the regular Army . And insists they dont tae any fascists prisoner. They execute them summarily just like the SS were treated .very disturbing, they will surely be involved in atrocities at some point
It's just a feeling but I think the Russians have had enough and may taken considerable action before the end of next week.
I course I'm sticking my neck out, but so what. I think it's hot, hot, hot.
Well Casually red the russians treated all their neighbours like we treated brown people and arnt even embarrsed about it so it cant be suprised if people think promoting SS vetrans as the ultimate fuck you russia
I think a chunk of the Ukrainian army is now encircled in the east. It is close to being over. I wonder when they will get some sort of peace deal.
hes clearly saying the Russians..as in the Russian state .. are invaders and the local Donbass fighters are subhumans sponsored by the invaders.
Relevant ministries and agencies are completing the lists of military, who are directly involved in counter-terrorist operations and want to get free land plots for the execution of the Cabinet of Ministers’ of Ukraine assignment concerning the realization of the initiative on the implementation of the program of providing the social assistance to families of military from Armed Forces of Ukraine, State Border Guard Service of Ukraine, Ministry for Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Security Service of Ukraine, - said the SALR Chairman Sergii Rudyk during the preceded the government hotline briefing. - Provision of land plots will be made in the manner specified by the current legislation of Ukraine.
Sergii Rudyk instructed the heads of territorial bodies of land resources to define the arrays of state or communal property land suitable for the construction and maintenance of residential houses, gardening and individual suburban construction, in order to provide the families of military personnel.
Can we just have a rational discussion here. As far as I am aware, ukrainian troops are encircled in the east. Yatsenyuk has no power here, the power rests with the president. His comments are irrelevant.