Ukraine

[frogwoman]

From Russian National Unity, the openly neo Nazi group who posted the image of the separatists sitting in the board room

Attention please everyone! Just called our brothers and comrades from Donetsk. Donetsk surrounded. Kiev junta to focus more military forces to assault Donetsk. OVER 300 armored vehicles. Artillery including jet. Helicopters.A large number of manpower - PRAVOSEKOV - Banderivtsy. MERCENARY. As well as other villains. Our brothers in Donetsk no longer hope to help more accurately Russian Kremlin. Probably tanks roll through Red Square on May 9 more important than helping people in Ukraine in the fight against real fascism. So they say. But our brothers are not in the position that would derogate or concede. They had a lot of weapons and ammunition but they will stand until the end. "Fill ALL oil and gasoline - THEMSELVES BUT burn burned these creatures as we can" - so say ORTHODOX Donetsk. Well, let Russia celebrates Victory Day. I ask all raspostranen THAT I write here as quickly and as widely as possible. ALEXANDER Barkashov.

This is their logo

For ideological reasons, renamed our resource of Ruthenia in Novorossiya. First, we have "junior" or "senior" - we are one people. And secondly, it will be the name Russian Orthodox republic, which is organized in most of the former Ukraine. Also publish recent photos of Donetsk Regional State Administration. God is with us! Glory to Russia!
5April 29, 2014 one ..

April 29, 2014 supporters of Alexander Barkashov in Donoghue (Page 1) - Photos - RNE Novoross
rne-ukraine.org

http://rne-ukraineDOTorg/viewtopic.php?id=142

sunny jim

 

[seventh bullet]

seventh bullet Idris2002 can you translate what the fash have got on their placard?

Dugin A.G. (Alexander Gelyevich) and Barkashov A.P. (Alexander Petrovich)

From the 'Orthodox Donbass.'

Dugin, of course, is the elitist neo-Eurasianist, and Barkashov was/is leader of Russian National Unity. What do you reckon sunny jim? The fascist anti-fascist resistance.

 

[seventh bullet]

Good fascists versus bad fascists.

 

[frogwoman]

Good fascists versus bad fascists.

Long live good things! Down with bad things!

 

[frogwoman]

Dugin A.G. (Alexander Gelyevich) and Barkashov A.P. (Alexander Petrovich)

From the 'Orthodox Donbass.'

Dugin, of course, is the elitist neo-Eurasianist, and Barkashov was/is leader of Russian National Unity. What do you reckon sunny jim? The fascist anti-fascist resistance.

'What do you mean Im a fascist, I'm as anti fascist as they come, I just think we need a new dawn to save the nation from degeneracy and decline caused by our eternal enemies. I'm not a fascist though. They're the real fascists '

 

[yield]

Russian aggression prompts Finnish-Swedish military pact
Bloomberg. 2014-05-06

Finland and Sweden aren’t members of the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance, though they joined the European Union together in 1995. Finland shares a 1,340-kilometer (830-mile) border with Russia -- more than the other 27 EU members combined -- and fought two wars against the Soviet Union during World War II. Popular opposition has stopped the two countries from joining NATO.

Similar concerns were voiced by Finnish officers in a survey conducted by the Finnish Officers’ Union in January. Military spending is “inadequate” for maintaining independent, credible defenses, according to 77 percent of officers who responded to the survey. The survey also showed the majority of Finnish officers support joining NATO.

Can't see them joining Nato though.

Also thought this old LRB about Vladislav Surkov was interesting. Quite long though.

Newly translated postmodernist texts give philosophical weight to the Surkovian power model. François Lyotard, the French theoretician of postmodernism, began to be translated in Russia only towards the end of the 1990s, at exactly the time Surkov joined the government.

The author of Almost Zero loves to invoke such Lyotardian concepts as the breakdown of grand cultural narratives and the fragmentation of truth: ideas that still sound quite fresh in Russia.

One blogger has noted that ‘the number of references to Derrida in political discourse is growing beyond all reasonable bounds. At a recent conference the Duma deputy Ivanov quoted Derrida three times and Lacan twice.’
In an echo of socialism’s fate in the early 20th century, Russia has adopted a fashionable, supposedly liberational Western intellectual movement and transformed it into an instrument of oppression.

Ukraine is close to war, warns German minister

Frank-Walter Steinmeier says Ukraine is 'a few steps away' from military conflict as dozens are reported dead near Slavyansk

theguardian.com, Tuesday 6 May 2014

 

[Eastern-Odyssey]

http://www.vocativ.com/world/russia/face-pro-russia-ukraine/

http://www.policymic.com/articles/84085/was-this-handsome-pro-russian-protester-planted-by-putin (dunno bout the accuracy of this mind)

This guy says that he was just playing the role of a dead German soldier

That was a smear campaign by the Ukrainian press, I actually felt a little sorry for the poor kid, because if you believe Life News he had to flee to Russia after getting death threats. They kind of remind of typical university kids who quite unlike me spent their time studying, rather than drinking. Plus I warm to the girl in the photo she looks sweet and friendly.

These are the kids you have to be scared of, the kids who don't wear Nazi uniforms.

From some shady Ukrainian Nazi youth group called White Clan, found it from the link I posted earlier of the former leader of the UNA-UNSO who posted on his wall. I don't think their very big, or at least not politically, but I was reading their political manifest the other night lets say it's quite shocking http://reftrend.ru/721789.html especially when the call for the sterilization of anyone with disabilities.

 

[frogwoman]

If its a fake I'll delete that one then. Sorry. It was on a far right site and the lad was being described as a Russian hero, when he probably doesn't want anything to do with it

 

[Barking_Mad]

Some Russian 'terrorists'

 

[Idris2002]

Just normal stuff

I remember seeing that multi-spoked sun wheel in the middle pic on a sticker by the elevators in one of the St. Petersburg metro stations I used to use.

 

[butchersapron]

RT and TASS are reporting that the clueless deluded Timoshenko clown has said there will have to a be a third round of revolution if she doesn't win the election:

"I do not want to bear responsibility for the failure of the revolution any longer,” she said. “But if the country elects other president, and, as a matter of fact, I have only one rival now, I think we will have to venture the third round of revolution. Because otherwise I don’t see any chance for changes. I simply know all these people."

 

[frogwoman]

RT and TASS are reporting that the clueless deluded Timoshenko clown has said there will have to a be a third round of revolution if she doesn't win the election:

Thousands of people are going to ukrainian army recruitment centres. Can't get the link on my phone.

 

[butchersapron]

Thousands of people are going to ukrainian army recruitment centres. Can't get the link on my phone.

They've been saying that since march mind. Here's a link to a story on the current round.

 

[seventh bullet]

Just been looking at the fash page again.

More celebrations:

sunny jim has gone awfully quiet

The black flag with the yellow/golden arrows pointing outwards belongs to Dugin's Eurasian Youth Union (ESM).

Hey sunny jim, it says very clearly that there's NO FASCISM behind the barricade, lol.

So, the photos of them were taken eight days ago at the occupied Donetsk regional administration offices and these men call themselves the Russian Orthodox Army of some group called 'Orthodox Donbass.' Or maybe, it's just them right now and they're attempting to recruit more fascist anti-fascist fighters. You posted earlier that Pavel Gubarev was a member of Barkashov's RNE. This group is a part of the 'people's' militia he has been associated with?

Look who they're friends with, as well as RNE.

National Patriotic Front - Memory (Pamyat).

 

[frogwoman]

There's a communist flag behind Barkashovs anti fascist freedom fighters too! No pasaran!

 

[frogwoman]

Russian National Unity, part of that well known communist class struggle organisation, the world union of national socialists

 

[frogwoman]

Lots of bullshit on twitter at the moment

 

[ViolentPanda]

Russian National Unity, part of that well known communist class struggle organisation, the world union of national socialists

Anti-fascists, every last one of them.

 

[frogwoman]

Anti-fascists, every last one of them.

I reckon we should invite Barkashov to a benefit gig

 

[SpineyNorman]

Lots of bullshit on twitter at the moment

what's being said?

 

[frogwoman]

Nazis killing everyone, etc

 

[butchersapron]

Why did the red/brown army retreat then?

Seriously, what's going on and why?

 

[frogwoman]

What's Putin doing?

 

[butchersapron]

What's Putin doing?

Pulled back own troop movements - indicated to those in the east he won't support them, said referendum shouldn't happen, supported ukraine m25 election,.

 

[frogwoman]

Pulled back own troop movements - indicated to those in the east he won't support them, said referendum shouldn't happen, supported ukraine m25 election,.

Yeah I know, I just read about it. Someone on the telegraph comments said that Putin could be trying to buy time in order to heighten his support of the rebels until after the elections.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Does that make Putin a fascist or just a fascist sympethiser?

 

[butchersapron]

Appeaser at very least.

 

[frogwoman]

Looks like we may have to cancel that benefit gig or at least replace Putin with someone else

 

[Voynich]

Today the Ministry of Internal Affairs announced that Mariupol had been completely taken under control of state forces. This seems to have followed the national guard parking-up on the fringes, while some very suspicious looking events took place in the town. The little black men appeared and proceeded to scare the shit out of people...

The same little black men who are claimed to have injured federalists and killed a man at a roadblock outside the town.

The little black men don't wear markings. Within the last weeks, some little black men - maybe different ones! Who can tell? - announced their formation of patriotic defence units to target all pro-Russians and sympathisers, beginning with the clearance of Kharkhov. For every little green man (in reference to Crimean phenomenon of unmarked uniformed de-facto Russians), they say, there will be a little black man. ..."Glory to the Nation. Death to the enemy!" ("смерть варагам"? -edt. better listeners please correct me)

The little black men are hugely popular with Right sector and the Nationalist-Socialist Assembly. I won't link obviously. There's no direct claim to their formation as far as I can see, but the NSA especially report on their activities as though they were their own. The VKontakte pages of Right sector East and NSA (who appear to be united) are now plastered with banners showing little black men, with the appeal to "Mobilise in the East! Ukraine needs you! Right Sektor East, NSA - " followed by a telephone number.

More or less the only person on the scene at Mariupol not to be masked up, but dressed accordingly, was presidential candidate and Radical Party leader Oleh Lyashko (probably mentioned earlier in the thread. I'd search but I'm knackered). His claims of victory in the town and in the arrest of the Donetsk Peoples' Republic 'Minister of Defense' (Ihor Khakimzyanov, who he is with, stripped, in the car) are in the first person.

I imagine this is about to become entirely routine, and Eurasian-Where's-Wally means very little in comparison. Especially since Putin's remarks have predictably had generally no impact on referendum plans. Where vicious ultranationalism is concerned, this is an 'asymmetrical' fight that's getting very much more 'asymmetrical' in favour of Ukrainian state affiliates as far as I can see.

P.s. By 7 in the evening, the Mariupol council building had been retaken by the People's Republic side.

Lyashko and a couple of familiar 'faces'

 

[Dr Jon]

Just spotted Russia and the Ukraine – The Worrisome Connection to World Oil and Gas Problems which sheds some light on the energy issues behind this.