DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
Yeah, by the sounds of things there might not be a cack handed ending to this after all.
Edit: sunny jim is "cack handed" hyphenated?
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Yeah, by the sounds of things there might not be a cack handed ending to this after all.
Edit: sunny jim is "cack handed" hyphenated?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
'cackles'? eh, really? isn't using the hate speech 'cackles' a medium of the opppression blah blah... oh i just give up...
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
its certainly a handy way of having people forget the side your supporting comprise a lot of neo nazis . Anf of framing it as a battle between good and evil . Its not so much the flyer itself , its the manner in which it seems to have been produced for international consumption and is being so heavily promoted by the US state department that gives rise to such suspicions. As youve pointed out . But we may probably never know .
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
6 Royal Canadian Air Force F/A-18 fighters, and four French Air Force Rafalé fighters to Poland and 6 RAF Typhoon fighters (in two weeks) to the Baltics to replace the 6 USAF F-15C fighters sent to reinforce the NATO Baltic Air Policing Task in March. the Royal Danish Air Force will also send four F-16 fighters to the BAPT, as well as keeping two further F-16's ready as reinforcements, should they be needed, in Denmark. the Polish Air Force will complete the make up of the task group with four MiG-29 fighters.
Turkey will deploy at least one tanker aircraft, and France has sent an E-3F AWACS aircraft to augment the NATO AEW task group flying over Poland and Romania.
in addition, 20 additional Canadian staff officers to NATO HQ.
Turkey will deploy at least one tanker aircraft, and France has sent an E-3F AWACS aircraft to augment the NATO AEW task group flying over Poland and Romania.
in addition, 20 additional Canadian staff officers to NATO HQ.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that'll make the russkies quake.
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
Found the English version of the Right Sector's facebook page. I really hope these fascist cunts die a slow and painful death.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pravyi-Sektor-English-International/235980666595205
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pravyi-Sektor-English-International/235980666595205
DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
Considering the amount of shit that was published across Ukraine it seems a bit weird that the west is focusing on this in such great detail.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
OK I jumped into this thread after studiously avoiding it for reasons mentioned in fez's "have you engaged in the Ukraine thread" thread. This was the first post I stop at. You read and quote spiked online?
Now I know I'd best disregard anything you say
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Was there ever that much chance of Russia going beyond Crimea?
DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
If Ukraine is now likely to join the EU and/or NATO... who knows?
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38271.htm
Investigation Finds Former Ukraine President Not Responsible For Sniper Attack on Protestors
Investigation Finds Former Ukraine President Not Responsible For Sniper Attack on Protestors
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
FFs -
1)) There was no investigation
2) You can't read
1)) There was no investigation
2) You can't read
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
The investigation was by ARD, a German state TV broadcaster on the programme Monitor
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/maidan-schuesse102.html
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/maidan-schuesse102.html
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
This is from LiveLeak.com the link wouldn't work for some reason so its a copy and paste of the article
BREAKING: German state tv blames ukraine opposition for massacre at maidan
Seven weeks after the deadly gunfire in Kiev, that discharged the government of president Victor Janukowitsch, there are many indices, that the official version about the Maidan happenings are very probably untrue. According to inquiries of the WDR-magazin Monitor (german state tv ARD), it is very unprobably, that the government was responsible for the gunfire on demonstrants. Last week the Attorny General and the coup regime of Ukraine blamed the Berkut-units for the massacre. According to the police, 12 members of this unit were arrested and will accoused for mass murder.
Now, the german state tv asked a senior member of the investigation team on maidan massacre, who denied the allegations of ukraine coup regime. "My findings are disagree with official statements by government and attorny-generalship", he said to Monitor.
There are also audio recordings of radiocommunications between snipers by president Janukowitsch who were stationed on the roofstops in the centre of Kiev. The conversations between the snipers were recorded by a radio ham:
"Who is shooting?", asked a member another sniper.
"The man was shot dead by someone, but not by a member from us.", answered the other member.
Then the same member asked the other sniper: "Are there more snipers? Who are they?"
Gunfire out of Hotel Ukraina
According monitor, there are videos, which show demonstrants, how they were fired not only from the direction of government facilities but also from direction of the Hotel Ukraina, that was in the back of the demonstrants. According to an eyewitness, who was on that day near the hotel and also near government facilites, he confirmed the happenings. "Somebody fired at us in our back, from the eigth or ninth floor of the Hotel Ukraina. They were surely professional's." Many journalists resided there and the hotel was completely in the hands of opposition member's. In the morning of 20 th. Febr. the hotel let only poeple in the facility who had a key for a room.
Advocates have no information's
According to advocates by family member's and wounded demonstrants they blamed the attorny generalship. They have no information's about the happenings. "We didn't heard, which guns were used, we have no access to surveys, we got no plan's of actions by Berkut-units, no investigation papers.", a victim said. "We can't say, what happened and can't also approve the version's of attorny generalship (Svoboda). One advocate said: "The generalship don't investigate in correct ways. They protect their member's, they are partisan like in the soviet union."
The complete report about the ARD-investigation will published at this evening in the first german state tv.
Monitor is one of prominent investigation-programs by german tv, which revelated scandals about the NSA, intrrnational slavery by big fashion producers and
Read more at
BREAKING: German state tv blames ukraine opposition for massacre at maidan
Seven weeks after the deadly gunfire in Kiev, that discharged the government of president Victor Janukowitsch, there are many indices, that the official version about the Maidan happenings are very probably untrue. According to inquiries of the WDR-magazin Monitor (german state tv ARD), it is very unprobably, that the government was responsible for the gunfire on demonstrants. Last week the Attorny General and the coup regime of Ukraine blamed the Berkut-units for the massacre. According to the police, 12 members of this unit were arrested and will accoused for mass murder.
Now, the german state tv asked a senior member of the investigation team on maidan massacre, who denied the allegations of ukraine coup regime. "My findings are disagree with official statements by government and attorny-generalship", he said to Monitor.
There are also audio recordings of radiocommunications between snipers by president Janukowitsch who were stationed on the roofstops in the centre of Kiev. The conversations between the snipers were recorded by a radio ham:
"Who is shooting?", asked a member another sniper.
"The man was shot dead by someone, but not by a member from us.", answered the other member.
Then the same member asked the other sniper: "Are there more snipers? Who are they?"
Gunfire out of Hotel Ukraina
According monitor, there are videos, which show demonstrants, how they were fired not only from the direction of government facilities but also from direction of the Hotel Ukraina, that was in the back of the demonstrants. According to an eyewitness, who was on that day near the hotel and also near government facilites, he confirmed the happenings. "Somebody fired at us in our back, from the eigth or ninth floor of the Hotel Ukraina. They were surely professional's." Many journalists resided there and the hotel was completely in the hands of opposition member's. In the morning of 20 th. Febr. the hotel let only poeple in the facility who had a key for a room.
Advocates have no information's
According to advocates by family member's and wounded demonstrants they blamed the attorny generalship. They have no information's about the happenings. "We didn't heard, which guns were used, we have no access to surveys, we got no plan's of actions by Berkut-units, no investigation papers.", a victim said. "We can't say, what happened and can't also approve the version's of attorny generalship (Svoboda). One advocate said: "The generalship don't investigate in correct ways. They protect their member's, they are partisan like in the soviet union."
The complete report about the ARD-investigation will published at this evening in the first german state tv.
Monitor is one of prominent investigation-programs by german tv, which revelated scandals about the NSA, intrrnational slavery by big fashion producers and
Read more at
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sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
Really? It seems to have won lots of awards.....
Prizes and awards
2013 Marler Media Prize for Human Rights "Damn High Price - Cheap fashion and the suicide rate among Indian workers"
2012 Special Prize of the Federal Hartmann for "health risk Implants: guinea pig patient"
2010 German Human Rights Film Award for "looking away and hide? History of an execution in Afghanistan"
2010 German price for Real Estate Journalism for "Chemnitz old buildings: As a city with funding shall be ruined"
2009 Ernst Schneider Award for "poor despite Riester: save for the Social Welfare Office"
2007 Environmental Award for journalists in particular for the MONITOR posts about climate change, climate change and energy policy
2007 Marler Television Award for Human Rights (Amnesty International) for "Why do German authorities deport an Iranian woman to death?"
2007 Adolf Grimme Prize for the discovery of the scandal "Paid lobbying in Federal Ministries"
2001 Human Rights Prize of the International Federation Journalists (IFJ)
2001 Marler Television Award for Human Rights
1999 DUH Environmental Media Award
1998 Civis Special Price
1997 Ernst Schneider Award
1997 Telestar
1995 aid price
1993 Civis Prize
1990 Golden Camera
1989 Carl-von-Ossietzky-Medal
1988 Media Award RFFU (DGB)
1987 BUND Journalist Award
1986 Josef Drexel Award
1985 Adolf Grimme Prize
1982 Adolf Grimme Prize
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
I shall try to watch that later but I'm too busy drinking whisky with Australians, Swedes, Russians and Serbians at the moment
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
They misquoted me!
Like I said I can't say if they are wrong here I just don't trust them anymore.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
3 Adolfs. That's pretty good going.
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
The Adolf Grimme award is most prestigious award in German TV. So yeah, pretty good going.
http://www.imdb.com/event/ev0000008/overview
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
That's bollox!
For a start, if there was a TV equivalent of The Sun on German TV it'd be on RTL2, Pro7 or SAT1 or any of the other boulevard shit houses. Secondly, they'd have shown some scantly clad blondes from Right Sector modelling this years AKs.
It's probably on a par with (and certainly no more sensationalist than) say Panorama.
I was taking you seriously up to this point
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
Hmmmm now I'm interested
sunny jim
A pikey fluffy type
Hmmmm now I'm interested
Does that make you a fascist wanker then?
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