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camouflage said:
Then how come all the creepy mono-thought-clique out there in media news land? Besides even if RT is a Kremlin mouth-piece that doesn't mean it should be dismissed. I've been having a listen to Russia's side of the story and to be fair, in my opinion yeh; story holds up. The EU/US narrative... not so much. Why should we take the BBC or Sky News or any of the others any more seriously then you take RT?
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I do take RT more seriously than the BBC or SKY. I'm fed up with their one sided coverage of Ukraine. I'm not saying RT is perfect; but believe I'm getting a more accurate picture of what's going on with RT. And anyway if nothing else, RT is much more interesting than the BBC and SKY as well as ITV and C4. That and I do like some of the female presenters on RT:thumbs:.
 
Not sure if anyone has been keeping up with developments in Donetsk or Luhansk.

That Dugin guy also reappeared speaking with the wife of the jailed Russian ex-governor Pavlo Gubarev in a leaked Skype conversation.

 
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hipipol said:
Oh Dearie me mate
All hail the new Pravda eh?
Have you not detected the slight tinge of bias in the RT bile?
Anyone not prepared to swill Putins piss is a Nazi seems to be your default setting
You are a complete and total idiot
Please bugger off to the onetime workers paradise forthwith
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Leaving aside the fact theres nothing in either of those 2 links that could be classed in any manner as propaganda, plainly you dont talk that pile of utter shite when someone posts a link from the BBC, Guardian, Independent etc. Whose unbelievable bias , complete disregard regard for facts to a massive degree and frequent down right lies and massive ommissions have been highlighted by quite a few others on this thread . To the extent theres an unmistakable whiff of a state sponsored line permeating all their coverage .
Which means your a massive xenophobe by the looks of it . Or just someone who plainly hates Russians.

as well as a fucking hippy wanker . But I suppose you cant help that .

About the only thing interesting you might have to say is an explanation as to why you dont heap abuse on people posting links to British news outlets and make references to swilling Camerons, NATOs, the EUs or Israels piss....stay classy hippy... Doubt well get one though .
 
hipipol said:
I doubt anyone from the Express would take a mouthful of Kerrys bladder juice.....oh yeah, they were Hitler Lovers, let alone appeasers!!!;)
Think you find that RT is more closely aligned with the Kremlins world view than is say the Beeb with Camerons
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bullshit . Abby Martin is one of RTs main presenters . She angrily denounced Russias actions live on air . Not a single arsehole in the BBC denounced the EU cheering on a coup and riots by fascists in Kiev . They called it pro democracy protests. It was the overthrow of democracy .


they were every bit as bad when it came to Libya and Syria . The utter shite theyve spun on cue is unbelievable .

either youre a xenophobe or youre more discriminate in that its Russians you hate
 
I'm excited to hear the condemnations of the Donetsk seizure of power by those who were cheering on far more violent seizures of power by much shadier groups.
 
fucks sake John Simpson was repeatedly telling us the people waving Russian flags in Crimea were being bussed in from Russia, for 2 days he ran with that one .
And that hippy twat is mouthing off about watching RT instead of that shite ?
 
J Ed said:
I'm excited to hear the condemnations of the Donetsk seizure of power by those who were cheering on far more violent seizures of power by much shadier groups.
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yeah..theyre actually saying..these protests dont appear to be spontaneous . Obviously because when theres usually spontaneous protests somewhere they are funding them to the tune of billions.

Dont worry, BBC will soon be on hand to tell us theyre all being airdropped in by the Kremlin. And theres only half a dozen of them . The same protestors turning up in different spots with cunning disguises.
Remember that one ?
 
J Ed said:
No but they can't be any worse than Right Sector or Svoboda. Maybe their equals.
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that looks like the red flag of the glorious and indefatigable workers soviet front and centre

and this is outside the same building a few weeks ago

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I dont doubt for a minute therell be extremely unsavoury characters in among that lot as well though . Russia has a major problem with ultranationalists and fash, Im sure theyre embedded among the Russian populace of Ukraine too and its highly unlikely theyve decided to stay at home and watch eastenderski .

eta

The guy who was arrested by the junta after the first take over of buildings was former far right back in the 90s . But it appears he did a complete U turn and went far left . Hes a councillor for the Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine, which split from the main left bloc due to its revisionism . So a major tanky these days by the sounds of it who was heading this up until his abduction .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Socialist_Party_of_Ukraine

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that pics from their anti fash demo in Kiev in 2008



But anyways I dont doubt for a minute some extremely unsavoury elements will be popping up around this . There was talk of those Chetnik assholes running about Crimea, although I didnt actually see any evidence of it .
 
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No doubt if this gains any traction we will hear (all over again) about the bigotry of these Russians/Russophones from people who were deaf and blind to Stormfront live and acoustic right in front of them.
 
J Ed said:
No doubt if this gains any traction we will hear (all over again) about the bigotry of these Russians/Russophones from people who were deaf and blind to Stormfront live and acoustic right in front of them.
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exactly what i was thinking, theyll be eager eyed fash spotters from this moment on, not a doubt. Itll be like Jesus arose and miraculously cured the blindness of the entire world media. Mind you this is the same media that can see Russian tanks that nobody else could .

Although I also think its safe to say this has gotten to the gained traction stage . This is a proper full on defiance of the coup by the looks of things and it doesnt look like its going away . A security HQ has been occupied, apparently with no resistance, and the kiev lot are also talking about an armoury being looted . Although that would be good grounds for a crackdown so Id take it with salt , despite it being possible.
 
J Ed said:
Sounds like TVE in Spain or increasingly the BBC
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It was the channel that showed the Russian equivalent of Spitting Image. It had a Putin puppet, but poor Vlad is so thin-skinned he couldn't take the mockery, so he simply took over the channel.

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seventh bullet said:
Well they don't bottle it when it comes to replies. And even worse, SA is pretending to be an idiot.
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If you actually read what I write you'll find I answered everything from your posts. I don't like repeating myself.
E2A plus I have much more important stuff to worry about at the moment than to spoon-feed you
 
I am sceptical about this but anyway I want to post this.
Apparently
Ukrainian defence ministry tell that Russia will invade tonight Ukraine.
 
goldenecitrone said:
It was the channel that showed the Russian equivalent of Spitting Image. It had a Putin puppet, but poor Vlad is so thin-skinned he couldn't take the mockery, so he simply took over the channel.

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It was also the channel dancing to the tune of MI5 agent and infamous tea slurper Alexander Litivinko and multi billionaire theif Boris Berezovsky that was running about claiming Putin was blowing up apartment buildings and killing hundreds of Russians in their beds .With fuck all proof . Just 2 days before an election :facepalm:.
Trash like that have been taken off air in Venezuela as well and rightly so. And your insistence it was due to a puppet is more than a bit ironic .
 
ha..just saw on the telly the tankies in Donetsk were blaring this one from loudspeakers off the roof of the occupied council building . Theyre referring to themselves as the Peoples Republic of Donetsk too.



The huge country is rising
Is rising for the deathly battle
Against the dark fascist force
Against their cursed hordes...

....Let us put a bullet into the brow
Of the rotten fascist vermin
Let us make a strong coffin
For such breed

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Im happy enough with those sentiments for now .
 
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