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This prompted a smile from me. From soon-to-be-an-irrelavence and shill for the EU Clegg. Not, you must understand that I think Putin is some kind of angel...

Clegg attacks Farage for 'siding with Vladimir Putin' over Ukraine

Nick Clegg has attacked Nigel Farage for advocating the "perverse" view that the EU, rather than Vladimir Putin, is to blame for the recent bloodshed in the Ukrainian capital.

The deputy prime minister said he was "extraordinarily surprised" that the Ukip leader had allowed his "loathing of the EU" to prompt him to say in their televised LBC debate that the EU had "blood on its hands" in Ukraine.
 
Almost designed to appeal to old right wing ukip voting Jewish ladies like my nan who told us all the other day how she feels sorry for Putin and wants to give him a hug

It's so against the general grain on the Western media on both sides on the pond that it struck me as either very naive or quite daring.
 
She was horrified by the neo Nazis on the maidan, she rang me up to talk to me/ask me about it. The next time I saw her she was going on about how sorry she felt for Putin :D
 
She was horrified by the neo Nazis on the maidan, she rang me up to talk to me/ask me about it. The next time I saw her she was going on about how sorry she felt for Putin :D

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Anyone read this Telegraph's article? Some guy frothing over a neo-Mongol invasion of northern asia.

There is a reason why no-one has lived in the far east, and it has nothing to do with Russian birth rates in the 21st century.
 
The ones I found didn't drive anywhere.

oh right, super pilot . You actually found some unlike the bulk of everyone elses missions .

God knows who your dropped your bombs on . NATO spent one afternoon repeatedly flattening a Kosovo refugee column over 15 mile stretch of road and then told the world it had wiped out a Yugoslav military column instead. Kept their lies up for days afterwards .
I think you lot racked around 80 kills with that afternoons work alone .



lets hope its cardboard decoys your boasting about there and not some poor sod with his family on a tractor
 
Obamas just gone and made a tit of himself again . He was giving a speech in Brussels about Crimea and responded to the Kosovo precedent the US and Britian supported . He announced the big difference between Kosovo and the Ukraine was

Kosovo only left Serbia after a referendum was organized not outside the boundaries of international law, but in careful cooperation with the United Nations and with Kosovo’s neighbors. None of that even came close to happening in Crimea.

The big fucking tit . There was never a referendum on independence in Kosovo. So it actually did come much much closer to happening in Crimea. Were there was a referendum . Which passed almost unanimously .

I think his plan is to make Putin die from laughing.
 
Around 2000 angry fash surrounded the parliament giving out about Fat Als execution . Threatened to storm it . Mps legged it through underground tunnel .

http://rt.com/news/right-nationalists-storm-ukraine-701/

Interestingly theyre also giving out about the seeming complete lack of interest in investigating the deaths of more of their members by sniper fire . I wonder were that reluctance stems from ? And did Fat AL know anything about it ?
 
This prompted a smile from me. From soon-to-be-an-irrelavence and shill for the EU Clegg. Not, you must understand that I think Putin is some kind of angel...

Clegg attacks Farage for 'siding with Vladimir Putin' over Ukraine

the final quote quote from Cameron provoked a snigger or 2 from me. His claim that the only way Britian could exert any influence over Russia was because it was part of the EU superpower.
Neither Britian nor the EU has managed to exert one iota of influence over Russia during this crisis.

Farage for all his faults has called it right . It was aggressive EU expansionism which has caused this crisis . Hes doing the lefts job for it , and wiping the floor with the governments spokspersons as a result . Hell hoover up a lot of votes after that from all over the place.
 
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-sv...relations-germanys-neo-nazi-npd-party-1440899

It has been revealed that the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD) is courting close relations with Ukraine's nationalist Svoboda party.

Last year, ex-leader of the NPD party Holger Apfel hosted a Ukrainian delegation of three Ukrainian parliamentarians at a parliament building in Dresden that included Svoboda MP Mikhail Golovko.

Apfel declared Svoboda "one of the most important European right-wing parties," according to Spiegel.

Apfel told the delegation that Svoboda is part of the "phalanx of patriotic powers" before encouraging the "intensification of cooperation" between the two nationalist parties.

He added that an "opposing model to the EU dictatorship of Brussels Eurocrats" must be created as EU officials were nothing but "willing helpers to international capital".

Recognition of the Svoboda party in Germany goes even deeper into the heart of its government; Germany's ambassador in Kiev met with the party's leader Oleg Tyagnibok.

Russia has initiated a criminal case against the leader of Ukraine's opposition Svoboda party Oleg Tyagnibok for forming an armed group with intent to commit assault.

Svoboda has increased its presence in Germany as its links with NPD grow by establishing chapters in Frankfurt, Cologne and Munich.

The German government views Svoboda as a "right-wing populist and nationalist party" which exhibits "in part right-wing extremist positions".

A demonstration of Svoboda's right-wing positions was a rally organised by the party to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division, made up of ethnic Ukrainians.
 

Nope (have now!), although I knew a fair bit about OUN (Melnyk, prior to the late '20s, was an on/off supporter of the idea of Ukraine as a monarchy (pref. Habsburg) and it's fractions, and about the revisionism (which has been going on since the '40s in the Ukrainian diaspora).

Svoboda have, of course, been quite clever. They appropriated as their name the word that was a clarion-call for anti-Soviet resistance both in Ukraine, and in the diaspora, and mostly rather gradualist in the establishment of their ultimate goals for Ukraine, but their ideas have been there, permeating political discourse, for a long time. As with Poland, modern Ukraine didn't have to deal with its' nationalist demons for a long time. Now those demons may drown any possibility of a "free" Ukraine.
 
Up until now, Der Spiegel in Germany has been Guardian-esque in its reporting, towing a fairly biased line, avoiding any significant criticism of the unsavoury elements of the putsch and interim government. Until today. Suddenly, they're running a title piece heavily laying into them and particularly Jazenjuk.


http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...ng-ist-zum-scheitern-verurteilt-a-960461.html
(Sorry - only in German)

I suppose this is where Germany now starts promoting Klitscko for the May elections. Funny how he went very quite as soon as the interm government was announced.
Spiegel now reporting that Klitschko won't be running for President but will be supporting Pjotr Poroschenko instead.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...auf-praesidentschaftskandidatur-a-961427.html
 
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