Ukraine

[Casually Red]

of course I mean the fenians, and they didnt need encouragement from anyone. Conspiracy theorist

 

[Casually Red]

must...resist...sausage.. gag...

do you often gag on sausages ?

 

[barney_pig]

do you often gag on sausages ?

Swallow, don't spit.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

of course I mean the fenians, and they didnt need encouragement from anyone. Conspiracy theorist

Read a little history.

 

[kebabking]

the enemy are at the gates and increasingly beefing up their presence and capabilities ...

i wonder what it could be about Russia that makes the surrounding countries willing to invite the very Devil himself into them in order to keep the Russians out...

 

[emanymton]

And emanymton - he's only posted once on this thread, on 22 February, and even in that post didn't reply or refer to you.

You're not doing much to make me question whether I was right to call you a bit odd RosyFuture

Don't worry though, I won't report you for fucking about with my username.

But I liked one of your posts. I don't think that makes me a bully though, more one of the kids in the background cheering the bully on as the camera does a 360 around all our sneering faces.

 

[DotCommunist]

i wonder what it could be about Russia that makes the surrounding countries willing to invite the very Devil himself into them in order to keep the Russians out...

they haven't seen the other cheek of the same arse? /galloway

 

[butchersapron]

Fancy that:

Dr. Bogomolets insisted that she did not indicate that protesters used snipers. She simply relayed to the Estonian minister what she saw that day – protesters shot in the head and heart. “What I saw were people who were killed by snipers and only on [protesters’] side.”

That's the second face to face interview in which she's offered that denial now (edit: actually there's a lot more out there from the lat few days as well). I wonder, what happened to her examination of the british forensics experts reports that she based her previous definitive claim that the protester were doing all the sniping on? The one that CR confidently claimed she based her claims on?

 

[ViolentPanda]

BBC will have to inform us whether she > they was paid, bussed in from Russia or both .

Definitely not the same person. Even extremely-good make-up couldn't give the same woman four different filtrums without resorting to immodest amounts of latex.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I'm confused. Can someone make sense of this for me?

Israel’s ambassador in Kiev, Reuven Din El, opened a hotline with a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist movement to “prevent provocations,” according to an agreement reached last week [...]

In the meeting, “Dmitry Yarosh stressed that Right Sector will oppose all [racist] phenomena, especially anti-Semitism, with all legitimate means,” the embassy wrote on its website. “The parties agreed to establish a ‘hotline’ to prevent provocations and coordinate on issues as they arise,” it said. [...]

Yarosh said that “non-Ukrainians” should be treated according to principles set forth by Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera.

Err.. but Bandera was responsible for this sort of shit:

In the subsection of "Minority Policy" the OUN-B ordered: "Moskali, Poles, Jews are hostile to us must be exterminated in this struggle, especially those who would resist our regime: deport them to their own lands, importantly: destroy their intelligentsia that may be in the positions of power ... Jews must be isolated, removed from governmental positions in order to prevent sabotage, those who are deemed necessary may only work with an overseer... Jewish assimilation is not possible."

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hey, if you have a box full of toys I guess you should make use of all of them.

The problem with males with toys is that we usually play with the biggest ones first.

 

[ViolentPanda]

the usa is surrounding Russia with a missile defence sheild, tipping MAD into a possible first strike option . It was in response to those missiles Russia put its gear in Kaliningrad. The USA has plenty of tactical nukes in Europe and has done for a long time . Theyre not aiming them at ducks .

They're surrounding it with a detection net/advanced listening posts. The putative bases in Poland are AW stations. Basic trigonometry should mean that any actual missile launched from Poland and pointing eastward would only be effective against ICBMs launched from the far east of Russian territory.

 

[stowpirate]

They're surrounding it with a detection net/advanced listening posts. The putative bases in Poland are AW stations. Basic trigonometry should mean that any actual missile launched from Poland and pointing eastward would only be effective against ICBMs launched from the far east of Russian territory.

In reality the real problem is air launched cruise missiles and them pesky Russian subs? No defence system in the world is going to stop them hitting US and UK targets. Not forgetting we can do the same to Russia?

 

[Fuchs66]

In reality the real problem is air launched cruise missiles and them pesky Russian subs? No defence system in the world is going to stop them hitting US and UK targets. Not forgetting we can do the same to Russia?

Exactly! Meaning the Russian whinging about the defence systems (whatever any of us think about it) is irrelevant.

 

[stowpirate]

Exactly! Meaning the Russian whinging about the defence systems (whatever any of us think about it) is irrelevant.

The Ruskies probably already have one of those suitcase bombs in every major city ready to to set on a timer at a moments notice ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuke

""the number of "missing" nuclear devices (as found by General Lebed) "is almost identical to the number of strategic targets upon which those bombs would be used."

 

[J Ed]

Only tangentially related but helps to give some context: Swedish far-right group who travelled to Ukraine to help Svoboda attacked and stabbed feminists in Sweden last night http://thegreatswedishunknown.wordp...tabbed-after-reclaim-the-night-demonstration/

 

[Casually Red]

I'm confused. Can someone make sense of this for me?



Err.. but Bandera was responsible for this sort of shit:

yeah, the Israelis are supporting US geo political interests . As is the deal for their free toys and financial propping up . And its also in their common interests to weaken Russia, who assists Assad and others in their backyard. Backing up neo nazis who dont regard Ukranian jews as poper Ukranians is no impediment to that and by far the lesser evil.
Its a misimpression the zionist regime has morals, scruples, principles. And independence from US foreign policy . And id suggest this is precisely why weve had that propaganda from the Maidan about neo nazis not being anti semitic , regarding jews as their brothers, how the jews of the world should support them etc. And that the known Mossad agent kicked out of Russia for spying whos now the Ukrainian ambassador has been active in promoting that propaganda.

Its a sure bet Yarosh is calculating well do the jews later and the Israelis and the west are thinking the same thing about Yarosh . Once their common enemy is defeated theyll probably have no further use of one another . Or maybe theyll always need each other.

its purely geo politics, nothing to do with principle or morality

 

[Casually Red]

Only tangentially related but helps to give some context: Swedish far-right group who travelled to Ukraine to help Svoboda attacked and stabbed feminists in Sweden last night http://thegreatswedishunknown.wordp...tabbed-after-reclaim-the-night-demonstration/

their tails are up by the looks of things, came back inspired

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Sky News just now: "We saw pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian protesters fighting each other. There was lots of flags, punching and fisting."

 

[Casually Red]

Sky News just now: "We saw pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian protesters fighting each other. There was lots of flags, punching and fisting."

well now...thats gotten well out of hand. Theres no call for it.

 

[TomUS]

the usa is surrounding Russia with a missile defence sheild, tipping MAD into a possible first strike option . It was in response to those missiles Russia put its gear in Kaliningrad. The USA has plenty of tactical nukes in Europe and has done for a long time . Theyre not aiming them at ducks .

The anti-ballistic missile system doesn't work. AFAIK it's only been able to hit an incoming warhead if it has a homing beacon on it. Some scientist did a study of it several yrs ago & told the pentagon that it never can work since it can't distinguish between real warheads & dummy ones. It's purpose is to pump money into the pockets of Boeing & other arms merchants.

 

[SovietArmy]

There is good resources about Ukraine what is going now. For Russian speakers is good chanel, but you can use translations into English.
http://krasnoe.tv/frontPage

 

[Naiwen]

Ukraine should go with Russia, not the EU.

 

[Casually Red]

 

[editor]

Ukraine should go with Russia, not the EU.

Anything else to add to that fascinating analysis or is that it?

 

[Naiwen]

Anything else to add to that fascinating analysis or is that it?

yep, that's it. And anyways, the problem wouldn't have arose, if the EU hadn't been meddling.

 

[Casually Red]

well, looks like Blackwater are in town . Helping the junta hold the line against the Easties in Donetsk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html

those are definitely American and NATO type weapons theyre armed with . And if they harm a hair on a single demonstrators head Id say its very likely the tanks could roll .

 

[gosub]

The anti-ballistic missile system doesn't work. AFAIK it's only been able to hit an incoming warhead if it has a homing beacon on it. Some scientist did a study of it several yrs ago & told the pentagon that it never can work since it can't distinguish between real warheads & dummy ones. It's purpose is to pump money into the pockets of Boeing & other arms merchants.

The land based one written off early Obama, switched to a naval deployed system that really does need to work.

 

[gosub]

well, looks like Blackwater are in town . Helping the junta hold the line against the Easties in Donetsk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html

those are definitely American and NATO type weapons theyre armed with . And if they harm a hair on a single demonstrators head Id say its very likely the tanks could roll .

Don't rate the odds of blackwater or whatever they call themselves these days getting to May without weapons discharge

 

[Fuchs66]

well, looks like Blackwater are in town . Helping the junta hold the line against the Easties in Donetsk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html

those are definitely American and NATO type weapons theyre armed with . And if they harm a hair on a single demonstrators head Id say its very likely the tanks could roll .

You seem to use the word definitely a lot especially about stuff you know little about.

1. The uniforms that I can identify are DEFINITELY Russian
2. The weapons I can identify are DEFINITELY Russian

But hey you have a habit of accepting the most bizarre press stories as gospel if you believe they will back up your position.

How much is RT paying these days btw?