cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
That was an excellent interview, Mark Austin did well holding it together, and totally destroying the Russian lies. I've been a lot more impressed with both Sky & Al Jazeera's coverage than the BBC's.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
Al jaz
Russia claims to have hit missile systems
Russia’s defence ministry says its forces have destroyed a shipment of air defence missile systems provided to Ukraine by the West.The ministry said that Russian sea-launched Kalibr missiles hit the four S-300 anti-aircraft launchers on Sunday. It alleged the missile systems were concealed in a hangar on the outskirts of the central Ukrainian city of Dnipro. The ministry added that 25 Ukrainian troops were hit in the attack.
It did not say which European country had supplied the S-300 systems. There was no immediate reaction to the claims from Kyiv.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I haven't really followed al-Jazeera, but Sky certainly seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. The BBC, certainly when it comes to interviews and analysis, seems rather half-hearted.
It must be quite frustrating, as a journalist, to have to confront the kind of blatant lying that seems to be Russia's stock in trade.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Looks like Mariupol is about to fall according to this odd post on facebook, supposedly by the 36th marine brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, reported by AFP, a French news agency.
It all sort of makes sense, and AFP is a reliable source, but it seems odd to post it on facebook, may be done in total despair, or perhaps their account has been hacked.
It all sort of makes sense, and AFP is a reliable source, but it seems odd to post it on facebook, may be done in total despair, or perhaps their account has been hacked.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Not much Ukraine can really do to relieve them. To deeply surrounded and generally a bit fucked.
The defenders have very much gone above and beyond.
The defenders have very much gone above and beyond.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
maybe it's posted on facebook because they want people to see it, and to say how they feel they've been let down by everyone's hero vz
I've not been following your posts and so don't know the background to this particular post, but why are you criticising VZ? What more could he have done in this scenario?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i am not myself criticising him, but saying that i think the unfortunate soldiers in mariupol feel rather let down by him.
On what basis would you come to that conclusion?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
The BBC quotes the deputy mayor of Mariupol, who says the Facebook post by the marines is "fake". Mariupol: Battle for key port city continues, Ukraine says Mezzer It's best to double check thngs you read in this thread
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
It's frustrating for the audience too, but the journalists have to broadcast the lies otherwiise they're accused of being propaganda tools. They need to appear impartial.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Interesting but very depressing article on a project for a holocaust memorial at babyn yar and the war in Ukraine
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David Clapson
Well-Known Member
This might give a little optimism, to those who need it. Vindman has tweeted that Russia has only one fourteenth of the troops it needs on the southern front. He is campaigning 24/7 for the US to send heavy weapons. He needs ro demonstrate that the Russians are beatable. Americans don't like to commit to the losing side.
https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1513572846060158983
https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1513572846060158983
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
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gosub
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Russian foreign minister says Russia's war with Ukraine is 'meant to put an end' to US world domination and NATO expansion
"This domination is built on gross violations of international law," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, according to RT.
www.businessinsider.com
JK Rowing must be relieved to be out of the frame. Is making me reappraise origins of WW1...war was going to happen. .so they scrabble around for justification
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Supine
Newt Member
I’ve seen four different accounts saying exactly the same words. True or not it is being spammed out.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
This thread's become an irritating Twitter-fest but posting twitter shit in Russian is really taking the piss!
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
But how much piss?This thread's become an irritating Twitter-fest but posting twitter shit in Russian is really taking the piss!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
That's not actually any use because I don't know I trust you. What translation are you referring to? Why not post it up?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
As much as can be put in
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Russian foreign minister says Russia's war with Ukraine is 'meant to put an end' to US world domination and NATO expansion
"This domination is built on gross violations of international law," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, according to RT.
JK Rowing must be relieved to be out of the frame. Is making me reappraise origins of WW1...war was going to happen. .so they scrabble around for justification
TBF saying that (and they've been saying it repeatedly) does work because it is obviously correct to say that international rules are not applied fairly or consistently. Some countries really can get away with murder as we all know.
Obviously that doesn't mean the Russians can invade and despoil a place as well, and even more obviously them invading Ukraine and despoiling it is never going to result in a fairer system but international law does need to apply to every country (and the UN does need reform to give more voice to countries that have risen since 1945). The EU especially should be focusing on this diplomatically.
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