Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
Just how inexperienced a crew do you need to be to set sail with the anchor still down.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Maybe they're being paid by the hour, rather than a job rate?Just how inexperienced a crew do you need to be to set sail with the anchor still down.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Ukraine can’t enforce anything. They are going backwards.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Only contrakti soldiers who have signed professional contracts go to the front in the SMO. Russian law prevents conscripts from being deployed. That's not to say that every trick in the book isn't used to get people to convert to contrakti status but it's a very different situation to Ukraine where you get picked up off a bus stop by the TCC and a few weeks later you're tramping through a minefield in Donbas. If you haven't got the money to bribe your way out of it.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
How does the suggested 200k compare to other peacekeeping operations?
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Plenty of accounts of police showing up at people's doors in Russia with some rather escalated charges relating to a drunken fight in the past (or perhaps criticising the war in Ukraine, which is worth a prison sentence on its own) and offering lengthy prison sentence or Ukraine. They've emptied the prisons and need more prisoners. It's a great way to collect mainly the people others aren't going to care about, which is the aim of the Russian recruitment campaign. So long as Muscovites are okay...
Russians accused of crimes offered choice - fight in Ukraine instead of court
A former Olympic athlete has been told if he fights in Ukraine a criminal case against him will be frozen.
www.bbc.co.uk
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Not to mention that the same corruption Ukraine is accused of will be operating - almost certainly far more endemically - in Russia.Plenty of accounts of police showing up at people's doors in Russia with some rather escalated charges relating to a drunken fight in the past (or perhaps criticising the war in Ukraine, which is worth a prison sentence on its own) and offering lengthy prison sentence or Ukraine. They've emptied the prisons and need more prisoners. It's a great way to collect mainly the people others aren't going to care about, which is the aim of the Russian recruitment campaign. So long as Muscovites are okay...
Russians accused of crimes offered choice - fight in Ukraine instead of court
A former Olympic athlete has been told if he fights in Ukraine a criminal case against him will be frozen.www.bbc.co.uk
And I don't imagine Putin's reluctance to recruit from the metropolises will have much to do with his regard for their inhabitants - much more that he knows that if he starts getting pushback from those places, it has far greater implications for his regime. Far better to rope in uneducated, dirt-poor Buryati whose families don't have the social or political capital to make trouble for him.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Twice the size of every other peacekeeping operation combined. It's a complete fantasy.
I do feel like Starmer and Lammy are fucking stupid enough to commit British troops to it though.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I broadly agree with this comment . Russia's present recruitment policy based on the large salaries and bonuses described in the BBC article is designed to both manage anti war sentiment, avoid the desertations they had in the first year of their invasion as well as supply troop numbers.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
They (the Russians) have emptied the prisons? Really? What do you base this claim on?Plenty of accounts of police showing up at people's doors in Russia with some rather escalated charges relating to a drunken fight in the past (or perhaps criticising the war in Ukraine, which is worth a prison sentence on its own) and offering lengthy prison sentence or Ukraine. They've emptied the prisons and need more prisoners. It's a great way to collect mainly the people others aren't going to care about, which is the aim of the Russian recruitment campaign. So long as Muscovites are okay...
Russians accused of crimes offered choice - fight in Ukraine instead of court
A former Olympic athlete has been told if he fights in Ukraine a criminal case against him will be frozen.www.bbc.co.uk
Reuters claim numbers of prisoners fell by 50,000 last year partly due to the war.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
What are these claims based on other than your vivid imagination?
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