Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Sweet FA]

You forgot the bit about rape being "the favourite word of the propagandist"

I forgot about the inevitable and endless whataboutery too.

 

[Elpenor]

I think a ceasefire on this thread is far less likely than in the actual war

 

[The39thStep]

Insincere, hypocritical, delusional from the start.

Refusal to involve Russia showed the lack of sincerity.

Righteous words about territorial integrity rang hollow given the actions of some participant countries in invading and subjugating others.

Delusional as Ukraine is on the back foot and has no plan to advance nor could it do so if it chose.

Lastly, it was an embarrassment for Zelensky. Major participants refusing to sign up to a heavily watered down statement made him look a fool.

I suspect many knew it would go badly hence sending their underlings.

The FT offered some possible, insights into the potential purpose of these conferences

 

[TopCat]

The FT offered some possible, insights into the potential purpose of these conferences

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The startling bits in that for me are views that Ukraine will reverse battlefield losses in 2025 and Russia’s political system will collapse.

Neither looks remotely likely.

 

[kebabking]

kk 'chortles' about war crimes, dk repeats it then the usual suspects line up to have a pop at dk. Standard.

I think you'd have to be illiterate, or on Crack, to think that I either 'chortled' at Rape as a war crime, or denied it's occurrence.

Like, genuinely.

 

[Sweet FA]

I think you'd have to be illiterate, or on Crack, to think that I either 'chortled' at Rape as a war crime, or denied it's occurrence.

Like, genuinely.

I agree. I was quoting someone else.

 

[Dystopiary]

kk 'chortles' about war crimes, dk repeats it then the usual suspects line up to have a pop at dk. Standard.

I wish everyone - regardless of where they stand on this war - would think twice before using the example of women's bodies being violated to make a point.

Struggling to articulate this to be honest, but this (repeated) "how would you feel if it was your wife?" kind of stuff makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, and I doubt I'm the only one.

All those hypothetical wives. How would their husbands feel? (content warning)

Daria, who fled Havronshchyna and spent a year in the relative safety of Uzhhorod on Ukraine’s western border, says free psychological counseling made available to victims of sexual violence has helped her to transform “trauma into strength.”

“I’m gradually trying to spread this information, to show that these crimes exist,” she said. “I want to be more active and more confident. Of course, it’s not easy. It’s not easy to talk about it publicly, or to talk about it at all.”

Maryna has completed training as a pastry chef and dreams of a home surrounded by flowers. She still has trouble sleeping and has also started to work with a counselor.

She is someone's wife.
She is someone's daugher.
She is someone's mother.
She is someone.

Of course this is not to say it's happening solely to women, though in war they are always the biggest target.

 

[discokermit]

dk repeats it

as a satire of the original usage. and i referred to a cat, not a human.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yeah Sweet FA, his rape lols was about a cat. It was satire. Bantz. Etc. ffs

 

[discokermit]

Yeah Sweet FA, his rape lols was about cat. It was satire. Bantz. Etc. ffs

says jimmy saviles biggest fan.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

says jimmy saviles biggest fan.

Fash arselicker

 

[discokermit]

now then, now then

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

now then, now then

How, just how does someone who claims to be someone who’s anti-fash find themselves cheerleading an actual fascist dictator? How has that happened?

 

[discokermit]

goodness gracious, as it appens, guys n gals, it hasn't.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Same sad sack that got thrown out for being the internet hard man, making this thread actually work for a few weeks whilst your pathetic presence was banned.

 

[discokermit]

Same sad sack that got thrown out for being the internet hard man, making this thread actually work for a few weeks whilst your pathetic presence was banned.

aww, am i spoiling it for you and your war chums?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This thread? It’s about an illegal war of aggression, how on earth can YOU spoil it? Even with your jovial attitude to fascists raping their way across Ukraine, no. Disgust at you being tolerated here, yes.

 

[emanymton]

aww, am i spoiling it for you and your war chums?

Your the pro war one supporting a fascists regime's act of imperial aggression.

 

[discokermit]

blah blah fuck off.

 

[Ax^]

thread is still toxic i see

if you don't want Russia to win in Ukraine

you are some how a war monger

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Fuck it, as Frau Bahn has just pointed out, odd that there’s no women cheering on these raping fash invaders.

 

[Ax^]

look if we just let the lad who started the war win

it would be world peace and puppies

 

[emanymton]

blah blah fuck off.

Out of curiosity Muppet who do you want to win the US presidential election?

I know your hoping it's Trump, but I bet you are too much of a coward to come out and say it.

 

[Humberto]

Looks like Kim Jong-Un will be helping out Putin.

To the tune of shells to bomb Ukrainians with.

But if you need to give your head a little wobble, if you side with them you are surely killing people.

 

[Humberto]

You are effectively killing people, Helping Putin. Undermining Zelensky.

 

[Humberto]

Don't give me the Urban doesn't matter it's small thing shit.

It matters in a small way, It hurts people in a significant way.

 

[Humberto]

The light of day will be 'explain this mechanism'.

But the people who ask that are dreadful ghouls.

 

[Humberto]

They also have over a million active soldiers. And have talked about sending quite a lot of them.

 

[Yossarian]

Just two old pals looking back on memories and making plans for the future, brought together by their shared love of murdering as many people as it takes to keep their grip on power

Putin thanked Kim for the support and said the two countries would sign an agreement to boost their partnership as both “fight against the imperialist hegemonistic policies of the U.S. and its satellites against the Russian Federation.”

...Kim was quoted vowing his country’s “full support and solidarity to the Russian government, army and people in carrying out the special military operation in Ukraine to protect sovereignty, security interests and territorial integrity.”

Russia and North Korea sign partnership deal that appears to be the strongest since the Cold War

The Russian and North Korean leaders signed an agreement that pledges mutual aid if either country faces “aggression.”

apnews.com