Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[William of Walworth]

I read somewhere at the weekend that one article of faith on the Europhobic right of the Tories (presumably UKIP too?) is removing the European Working Time Directive. I know plenty of people in this country are conservative minded, but how the hell that can ever be popular (except amongst free market nutters), I simply fail to grasp.

'Vote for us and we'll extend your hours'

 

[brogdale]

I read somewhere at the weekend that one article of faith on the Europhobic right of the Tories (presumably UKIP too?) is removing the European Working Time Directive. I know plenty of people in this country are conservative minded, but how the hell that can ever be popular (except amongst free market nutters), I simply fail to grasp.

'Vote for us and we'll extend your hours'

False..something...I can't quite remember what the dead german said.

 

[butchersapron]

UKIP up to 18% in the ICM/Guardian monthly.

Nigel Farage's party has surged from its previous record best with ICM, the 9% it notched up in April, to 18% after its council election victories last week.

Labour, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats have been left reeling, with all shedding four points on the month to 34%, 28% and 11% respectively.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe the tories first proper panicked move:

James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers
Big EU referendum news: Cameron and Hague to unveil Bill tomorrow having not consulted Lib Dems - will dare them and Labour to vote it down

 

[brogdale]

Maybe the tories first proper panicked move:

James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers
Big EU referendum news: Cameron and Hague to unveil Bill tomorrow having not consulted Lib Dems - will dare them and Labour to vote it down

Clegg...aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Roadkill]

Maybe the tories first proper panicked move:

James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers
Big EU referendum news: Cameron and Hague to unveil Bill tomorrow having not consulted Lib Dems - will dare them and Labour to vote it down

 

[where to]

"And Hague". that means something, not sure what.

 

[redsquirrel]

Maybe the tories first proper panicked move:

James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers
Big EU referendum news: Cameron and Hague to unveil Bill tomorrow having not consulted Lib Dems - will dare them and Labour to vote it down

Stupid move, UKIP and the right of his party know he's running scared and can be forced to their demands.

 

[J Ed]

Stupid move, UKIP and the right of his party know he's running scared and can be forced to their demands.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/14/eu-referendum-david-cameron-tory

Good call.

David Cameron's attempt to douse the Eurosceptic surge within the Conservative party by announcing he will publish a draft bill on an EU referendum appears to have failed to quell backbench discontent over Europe.

Rebel MPs said they would press ahead with an amendment to the Queen's speech – and urged the prime minister to face down his Liberal Democrat coalition partners and introduce a government bill to hold a referendum during the present parliament.

 

[Dogsauce]

Someone needs to remind these cunts that they didn't actually win the 2010 election, and they can't just do what the fuck they like.

 

[gosub]

Someone needs to remind these cunts that they didn't actually win the 2010 election, and they can't just do what the fuck they like.

Here is an extract from the Liberal Democrats 2010 manifesto on Europe:

The European Union has evolved significantly since the last public vote on membership over thirty years ago. Liberal Democrats therefore remain committed to an in/out referendum the next time a British government signs up for a fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU.​

– LIBERAL DEMOCRATS 2010 MANIFESTO​

if Politicians think the EUro will survive another 5 years without the sort of structural reform that would require a treaty its going to be a bumpy ride

 

[nicedream]

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[butchersapron]

That's total shit. Embarrassing.

 

[Dreich]

Looks like Farrage is getting a hard time in Edinburgh:
https://twitter.com/severincarrell/status/335070343108653057

 

[butchersapron]

Lucky bastard:

Fully licensed, food served all day. Stewart Brewing Real Ales throughout the Festival. Ground Floor Restaurant/ Bar allows children of 5 years and over when accompanied by an adult for dining up until 5pm. Cellar Bar: 18+

Food
Fully licensed and also serving hot drinks from 12:00-01:00 (Sun til 00:00). Food served all day. Real ale
extensive selection of malt whiskies. Free wifi.

 

[Dreich]

If they'll serve him! Apparently, a taxi driver refused to take him in his cab and he had be driven off in a police van.

 

[youngian]

When's Farage coming to Brixton?

 

[where to]

Latest Comres poll has them at 19%. A record high. Lab 35, Tory 29, Liberal 8.

 

[trampie]

Farage apparently locked in a pub and bundled into a police van for his own safety up in Scotland, protesters shouting all sorts at him and giving him a very hard time.

Farage seems to think their outrage is an anti English thing, could we have Scotland and Wales independent and socialist and in Europe and England right wing and out of Europe, on their tod ?

 

[where to]

Latest Comres poll has them at 19%. A record high. Lab 35, Tory 29, Liberal 8.

Polling done wed thurs btw so any impact from Canon's gait-gate v v unlikely

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Polling done wed thurs btw so any impact from Canon's gait-gate v v unlikely

But similarly no reaction yet from the swivelometer.

 

[brogdale]

Did they all have a bit of chin-wag round the back of the coffin, and decide that dave was no more?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe

Lord Howe, the former Conservative chancellor who triggered the downfall of Margaret Thatcher, has launched a scathing attack on the prime minister, accusing him of running scared of his backbenchers and endangering Britain's future in Europe.
The Tory grandee says David Cameron has opened a Pandora's box by opposing the current terms of the UK's membership of the European Union and now appears to be losing control of his party. The prime minister's actions, Howe writes in the Observer, have turned an internal Tory problem into a national one.

Talk about Grey men in suits...

 

[goldenecitrone]

Did they all have a bit of chin-wag round the back of the coffin, and decide that dave was no more?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe



Talk about Grey men in suits...

Looks like one Prime Minister's guts for garters aren't enough for Howe. Go Geoffrey you wild old boar.

 

[brogdale]

Looks like one Prime Minister's guts for garters aren't enough for Howe. Go Geoffrey you wild old boar.

From the comments underneath...

Watching this is like watching an animal chew it's own leg off when it's caught in a trap.
Only much more enjoyable

 

[goldenecitrone]

It is getting more entertaining by the day.

'm getting almost as much pleasure watching the Tories implode as I did watching thatchers funeral.All labour have to do is sit back and enjoy the circus of clowns throwing knives at each other.Brilliant bring it on

 

[Maurice Picarda]

It's all very amusing but it does raise the horrible spectre of an actual in/out referendum happening.

 

[butchersapron]

Latest Comres poll has them at 19%. A record high. Lab 35, Tory 29, Liberal 8.

That record didn't last long. Observer/Opinium has them on 20% tmw.

 

[brogdale]

It's all very amusing but it does raise the horrible spectre of an actual in/out referendum happening.

Horrible in what way?

 

[brogdale]

That record didn't last long. Observer/Opinium has them on 20% tmw.

Hmmm...coalition to outlive Cameron?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Horrible in what way?

Horrible as in abrupt loss of export market, flight of financial services industry and overseas investment, all that sort of stuff.