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TV series recommendations general (excluding Netflix/ Amazon)

I really want to like The Cleaner and I watch them all because Greg Davies. But it’s not 1/8 as good as it could or should be. I’m not even sure I can articulate why.
Yeah, I didn’t think the Cleaner was any good. Like you I like Greg Davies. I liked Cuckoo. But I was underwhelmed.
 
I liked the first season of Industry, because the bits about investment banking were interesting. The second season had much less about investment banking and an implausible politics side plot, while ramping up the tedious shagging. What I’ve read about the third series suggests that it has moved even further in that direction, so I’m not reminding Mrs Loom that it is on iPlayer.
 
Joan - I really liked this. As always though, a bit pissed off that loads of the real story was changed for the drama.

Oranges and Sunshine - upsetting, important.

Imperium - engaging. Normally can't stand Daniel Radcliffe but he was good in this.

Man of God - also recommended. Ted Bundy story.

Changing Ends - again, normally can't stand Chatty fucking Man, but this has totally changed my mind about him, and the kid who plays him is outstanding, hysterically funny.
 
This is exactly the sort of comment that will stop me ever watching it. Especially the word because. You liked it because of that? OK, you do you.
I have no interest in investment banking, I probably didn't understand most of that stuff. It's a good drama series with interesting, quite dislikeable, but human characters.
 
This is exactly the sort of comment that will stop me ever watching it. Especially the word because. You liked it because of that? OK, you do you.

All professions and workplaces are interesting. Organised crime and medicine and law enforcement are all very well, but it’s great when a show is set in a 1960s ad agency or a funeral parlour or something else which hasn’t been done before,
 
Joan - I really liked this. As always though, a bit pissed off that loads of the real story was changed for the drama.

Joan was excellent. It won’t bother most people that the real story was substantially changed because not many people will be familiar with it. Also, I think they changed it because they’ve set it up for a second series which will likely be pure fiction and rely on some of those changes.

Great telly.
 
All professions and workplaces are interesting. Organised crime and medicine and law enforcement are all very well, but it’s great when a show is set in a 1960s ad agency or a funeral parlour or something else which hasn’t been done before,
Ooo I don't know. Investment banking characters are more likely to just draw sneers from me, rather than being able to focus on anything else. I loathe the prizing of money above all else.
 
Joan was excellent. It wasn’t bother most people that the real story was substantially changed because not many people will be familiar with it. Also, I think they changed it because they’ve set it up for a second series which will likely be pure fiction and rely on “you know who” being alive.

Great telly.
I always look up the stories after I've watched a drama, to compare. There was one a year or so ago, brilliant drama about a female double spy, and FUCKING NONE OF IT WAS TRUE apart from her bloody name! That pissed me off beyond belief. Why do that? The true story was good enough.

Yeh, deffo set up for another series. That's another thing I can't stand about modern telly - you hardly ever get a satisfying resolution, it's always with an eye to making more money/next season.
 
No, it just has the presentation of a certain lifestyle through well drawn characters and a well structured narrative.
Aye. Fair enough. You’re describing the programme. I’m sure it’s well done. What I’m not sure about is whether I want to watch unlikeable characters again. I know it’s narratively interesting, and the fashion. But maybe I’m just not in the mood for it yet again, you know? I know humans are complex, but often these things simplify in the other direction, and instead of complexity you get uniformly horrible. An oversimplification again, but one that leaves you without any reason to connect. I can even deal with that a few times, for the novelty. But it wore off.
 
All professions and workplaces are interesting.
Yeah. No.
Organised crime and medicine and law enforcement are all very well, but it’s great when a show is set in a 1960s ad agency or a funeral parlour or something else which hasn’t been done before,
That’s a fair point. I sometimes wonder why I keep watching Walter Presents type series. Why crime again? It doesn’t even fit my view of the world. So why do I get drawn back to cop shows? No idea.

I did love Mad Men, though. And I watched that twice.
 
Aye. Fair enough. You’re describing the programme. I’m sure it’s well done. What I’m not sure about is whether I want to watch unlikeable characters again. I know it’s narratively interesting, and the fashion. But maybe I’m just not in the mood for it yet again, you know? I know humans are complex, but often these things simplify in the other direction, and instead of complexity you get uniformly horrible. An oversimplification again, but one that leaves you without any reason to connect. I can even deal with that a few times, for the novelty. But it wore off.
I often don't like truly unlikeable characters and it will put me off a show. But these have enough likeability and back story.
Succession is probably the only thing I like with truly odious characters (although they have some back story, just not enough) and gets away with it because it's so sharp and wry.
 
Yeah. No.

That’s a fair point. I sometimes wonder why I keep watching Walter Presents type series. Why crime again? It doesn’t even fit my view of the world. So why do I get drawn back to cop shows? No idea.

I did love Mad Men, though. And I watched that twice.

Have you seen six feet under?
 
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