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For the avoidance of faith
Sorry for the delay. I nearly missed my train.
I notice you don't need definitions of racism, sexism or homophobia. Curious that.
I don't have a handy definition of transphobia. If you don't have time to google a definition can I suggest we just go with an analogue of the aforementioned prejudices, and ignore your insinuation that it's something as trivial as you describe.
I happen to believe that only a small number of the "terfs" we hear of are vicious and malicious bigots some of whom actually represent a real threat to trans people. Their willingness to get into bed with the worst elements of the Tory party and the MSM does immense damage already. The rest are perhaps not hostile to trans people and might even change their position over time if the imagined outcomes being touted fail to materialise.
This is much the same way that homophobia has declined over the last fifty years. Though it's still way too pervasive.
As to this particular case. I don't approve of "punching terfs" or more generally of any intra-left violence*. Nor do I support prosecuting the people responsible for anything short of ABH. And even then it will depend on the circumstances.
As to the tweets you quoted. They're terrible aren't they? I'm sure you're aware that similar and worse things have been said by terfs. That doesn't justify rape threats, which are inexcusable.
However, on the subject of Twitter, I'd say two things. There are trolls. And some people seem to treat tweeting like a rant in the pub at eleven o'clock on a Saturday night - you say the first thing that comes into your head and next morning hope anybody who remembers will write it off as the booze talking.
Thank you. I'll assume then that your answer to the other two cases would be similar.Ok sorry. Your question as put below
Is so disingenuous as a comparison ‘a scuffle engendered by their racist behaviour’ that I think it’s totally irrelevant to this case. But in a situation as you describe, where the racist caused the whole ruckus, I’d probably side with the puncher. That is not the case here. And again please define transphobe. If a transphobe is anyone who is not sincerely totally convinced that saying ‘I’m a woman’ makes it so with no further questions then there must be an awful lot of people need punching.
I notice you don't need definitions of racism, sexism or homophobia. Curious that.
I don't have a handy definition of transphobia. If you don't have time to google a definition can I suggest we just go with an analogue of the aforementioned prejudices, and ignore your insinuation that it's something as trivial as you describe.
I happen to believe that only a small number of the "terfs" we hear of are vicious and malicious bigots some of whom actually represent a real threat to trans people. Their willingness to get into bed with the worst elements of the Tory party and the MSM does immense damage already. The rest are perhaps not hostile to trans people and might even change their position over time if the imagined outcomes being touted fail to materialise.
This is much the same way that homophobia has declined over the last fifty years. Though it's still way too pervasive.
As to this particular case. I don't approve of "punching terfs" or more generally of any intra-left violence*. Nor do I support prosecuting the people responsible for anything short of ABH. And even then it will depend on the circumstances.
As to the tweets you quoted. They're terrible aren't they? I'm sure you're aware that similar and worse things have been said by terfs. That doesn't justify rape threats, which are inexcusable.
However, on the subject of Twitter, I'd say two things. There are trolls. And some people seem to treat tweeting like a rant in the pub at eleven o'clock on a Saturday night - you say the first thing that comes into your head and next morning hope anybody who remembers will write it off as the booze talking.