Tory Leadership contest 2022

[cupid_stunt]

This from the political editor at LBC amused me.

 

[marty21]

He might blame the defeat on them not having him as leader, but will anyone be listening to him by then? He may well have been further discredited by the privileges committee by then - and likely have lost his seat. I think things will look very different, even to party members.

tbf, his seat is vulnerable - he's unlikely to be able to get a safer seat before the election - where it's probably only current uber-safe seats will remain in Tory hands - so he may have to plot his way back - I think my point is , we haven't seen the last of him - he will be plotting.

 

[bimble]

Will the grotesque halfwits like dorries cleverly & mogg who owe their positions to the Johnson show be put back in their boxes and far away from any kind of power now? Hope so.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Again from Sky, the Mordaunt campaign claims she now has the support of 90 MPs.

 

[platinumsage]

The Times of India disagrees -

"Mordaunt far from qualifying threshold of 100: Leader of the Commons Penny Mordaunt, the only other contestant in the race, has much ground to cover to hit the 100-MPs mark, giving rise to the possibility that the former finance minister may well be declared the new leader as soon as Monday evening."

 

[maomao]

Will the grotesque halfwits like dorries cleverly & mogg who owe their positions to the Johnson show be put back in their boxes and far away from any kind of power now? Hope so.

Your wrong in thinking these people are any worse than the rest of the Tories (or most of the Labour party for that matter).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

tbf, his seat is vulnerable - he's unlikely to be able to get a safer seat before the election - where it's probably only current uber-safe seats will remain in Tory hands - so he may have to plot his way back - I think my point is , we haven't seen the last of him - he will be plotting.

He'll be plotting like Trump is plotting in that case - for something that isn't going to happen.

Of course, I may be wrong, but my bet is that Johnson will never be in government again nor leader of the opposition. Long shot that it was, this weekend was his best chance.

 

[cupid_stunt]

The Times of India disagrees -

"Mordaunt far from qualifying threshold of 100: Leader of the Commons Penny Mordaunt, the only other contestant in the race, has much ground to cover to hit the 100-MPs mark, giving rise to the possibility that the former finance minister may well be declared the new leader as soon as Monday evening."

So does Guido, including those privately supporting them, Sunak is on 193, Mordaunt on just 30.

 

[bimble]

Your wrong in thinking these people are any worse than the rest of the Tories (or most of the Labour party for that matter).

I don’t see things that way. Patel for instance, in the position of Home Secretary, i don’t think it’s true that anyone else would have been just as bad. Johnson cultivated and elevated some properly dangerous idiots.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don’t see things that way. Patel for instance, in the position of Home Secretary, i don’t think it’s true that anyone else would have been just as bad. Johnson cultivated and elevated some properly dangerous idiots.

And Brexit cleared out the remainer wing of the Tory party.

I think we can all become numb to it sometimes - I can at least - but deporting refugees to Rwanda is a thing now. We're governed by extremists.

 

[belboid]

And Brexit cleared out the remainer wing of the Tory party.

There are still over 100 members of the One Nation group, even in this parliament. He just cleared out the ones anyone has heard of.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There are still over 100 members of the One Nation group, even in this parliament. He just cleared out the ones anyone has heard of.

Fair point. They're not allowed to say 'Brexit was a fuck-up', though, are they? Mind you, neither are Labour MPs.

 

[Bingoman]

I m not sure Mourdant can continue in this race, no way does she have 90 atm

 

[Bingoman]

ERG group have just said they would back who ever the leader is and unite under them?

 

[Pickman's model]

ERG group have just said they would back who ever the leader is and unite under them?

Have they?

 

[Ax^]

will they fuck...

 

[Pickman's model]

I don’t see things that way. Patel for instance, in the position of Home Secretary, i don’t think it’s true that anyone else would have been just as bad. Johnson cultivated and elevated some properly dangerous idiots.

How easily theresa may is forgotten

 

[Wilf]

I think it’s significant how he managed to totally dominate the news for days, it was a kind of trolling.

Nah, he really wanted the job back.

Whether he would want it after a defeat in 2024, I don't know. Part of him, the egotistical bit - which is the only bit there is - would want a triumphal return, being summoned from the wilderness and all that. But whether he'd want 5 years hard slog as leader of the opposition, is another thing entirely.

 

[cupid_stunt]

So far, 3 former Johnson supporters have switched to Mordaunt, 15 to Sunak.

 

[maomao]

I don’t see things that way. Patel for instance, in the position of Home Secretary, i don’t think it’s true that anyone else would have been just as bad. Johnson cultivated and elevated some properly dangerous idiots.

If anything, Patel spent so much energy tilting at windmills (the Rwanda thing is horrible, but no-one has been sent there) that she did dless actual damage than Javid or May. As a rule of thumb, competent Tories are a lot scarier than incompetent loons (not suggesting May was competent though).

 

[Karl Masks]

If anything, Patel spent so much energy tilting at windmills (the Rwanda thing is horrible, but no-one has been sent there) that she did dless actual damage than Javid or May. As a rule of thumb, competent Tories are a lot scarier than incompetent loons (not suggesting May was competent though).

Just mooting the rwanda policy was damaging enough. The stress it has caused through the possibility they will take place and the leverage gained from arguing against those opposing it as 'the enemy within'

 

[Karl Masks]

ERG group have just said they would back who ever the leader is and unite under them?

Mogg said he wouldn't serve in Sunak's cabinet before Truss won

 

[Bingoman]

Have they?

Just held a press conference

 

[Wilf]

I'm not sure that even thatcher would have had mogg or dorries in her cabinet.

 

[maomao]

ERG group have just said they would back who ever the leader is and unite under them?

They're hardly likely to give a press conference saying they plan to keep fucking shit up.

 

[Bingoman]

I'm not sure that even thatcher would have had mogg or dorries in her cabinet.

I don't think she would have most of the ones currently in the cabinet

 

[maomao]

I'm not sure that even thatcher would have had mogg or dorries in her cabinet.

Thatcher did have Rees-Mogg in her cabinet.

 

[Wilf]

Thatcher did have Rees-Mogg in her cabinet.

 

[Bingoman]

Blimey according to sky news Sunak has got 192 MPs backing him

 

[cupid_stunt]

Thatcher did have Rees-Mogg in her cabinet.

No she didn't, he stood for the first time at the 1997 GE, and didn't win a seat until 2010.