Tory Leadership contest 2022

[brogdale]

I know she's ludicrous, but even so, "we're bringing [fellow member and potential leader of our party] down with us" feels pretty next level in terms of lack of self-preservation or dignity.



<edit: OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE PROFILE NAME THAT THE SECOND TWEET IS FROM A PARODY ACCOUNT>

A love so true

 

[brogdale]

The Guardian shared this:

Dream scenario

 

[Lord Camomile]

The Guardian shared this:

It would almost be worth it...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Right now this seems an entirely likely scenario. Glorious, isn’t it?

It's the hope that kills ya. In reality, Johnson won't get to 100 and Sunak will be crowned tomorrow.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Can anyone come up with an outcome that doesn’t entirely fuck the Tory party?

 

[maomao]

It would almost be worth it...

It would totally be worth it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I know she's ludicrous, but even so, "we're bringing [fellow member and potential leader of our party] down with us" feels pretty next level in terms of lack of self-preservation or dignity.



<edit: OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE PROFILE NAME THAT THE SECOND TWEET IS FROM A PARODY ACCOUNT>

tbf, the second tweet doesn't misrepresent the first tweet.

 

[bimble]

people cheering on a Johnson triumph you must think the damage would be restricted to within the tory party. Which i find very weird.

 

[maomao]

Can anyone come up with an outcome that doesn’t entirely fuck the Tory party?

Yes, Sunak wins and Kieth rims him at pmq every week to try and make himself look trustworthy on economics.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Yes, Sunak wins and Kieth rims him at pmq every week to try and make himself look trustworthy on economics.

Sunak winning sets the party membership against the MP’s though. They don’t want the man they see as responsible for getting rid of Boris, never mind before you consider their views on the colour of his skin.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

people cheering on a Johnson triumph you must think the damage would be restricted to within the tory party. Which i find very weird.

What more damage to 'the country' would he do that others wouldn't?

The thing I most fear is a competent-looking tory PM. They're the ones that do the most damage.

 

[maomao]

people cheering on a Johnson triumph you must think the damage would be restricted to within the tory party. Which i find very weird.

I'm not convinced that Boris losing results in lower damage. Two years of super austerity sounds worse than a collapse.

 

[Lord Camomile]

tbf, the second tweet doesn't misrepresent the first tweet.

That's the only solace I am taking from this

 

[ruffneck23]

It's the hope that kills ya. In reality, Johnson won't get to 100 and Sunak will be crowned tomorrow.

And the gammons are just going to love that. It seems to be lose, lose all round.

 

[Wilf]

130 yet to state a preference ..

Cowards waiting to see the way the wind is blowing. There'll be a stampede towards sunak at some point before tomorrow morning.

 

[SysOut]

The Guardian shared this:

Perfect storm.

 

[Wilf]

Right now this seems an entirely likely scenario. Glorious, isn’t it?

Don't think it will happen, there hasn't been much of a drift towards johnson today, if anything it's away from him. We'll see when all of the tory lice come out of the wordwork and put their votes in, but my guess is that johnson will never actually declare. Having not seen the news for a while, I might be entirely wrong on that.

 

[agricola]

The Guardian shared this:

Be funny if Johnson is elected leader of the Tory Party whilst Sunak becomes PM.

 

[Wilf]

people cheering on a Johnson triumph you must think the damage would be restricted to within the tory party. Which i find very weird.

Eh? I see a johnson win as the very thing that guarantees they lose the next election. Whoever wins, there'll be a 'sensible' chancellor doing cuts and neoliberalism in power till 2024/5. And with Rachel Reeves after that...

 

[Bingoman]

The Guardian shared this:

Bring on the Chaos and let's see what happens next

 

[_Russ_]

And the gammons are just going to love that. It seems to be lose, lose all round.

Sarcasm yea???...just checking

 

[elbows]

What more damage to 'the country' would he do that others wouldn't?

I suppose we have to factor in the fucking markets. Might get some clues about that tomorrow.

 

[Indeliblelink]

Is this even possible? Boris as leader of Conservative Party but Sunak as PM.

 

[Bingoman]

If Johnson wins will there be chaos in the party and how many MPs and peers will walk away from the party and force a GE

 

[agricola]

Is this even possible? Boris as leader of Conservative Party but Sunak as PM.

its absolutely possible - it has happened before (after Chamberlain fell in 1940 when he was Leader but Churchill was PM) and no PM could function without having the confidence of a majority of their MPs

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Is this even possible? Boris as leader of Conservative Party but Sunak as PM.

dunno really.

i don't think it's a legal / constitutional requirement for the PM of the day to be leader of their party, if they can pass a confidence vote in the HoC

think it would piss off a fair proportion of party members and the pro-johnson MP's though (whether it would piss enough MPs off enough to vote 'no confidence' and bring a general election on, i'm not sure)

 

[agricola]

dunno really.

i don't think it's a legal / constitutional requirement for the PM of the day to be leader of their party, if they can pass a confidence vote in the HoC

think it would piss off a fair proportion of party members and the pro-johnson MP's though (whether it would piss enough MPs off enough to vote 'no confidence' and bring a general election on, i'm not sure)

TBF the pro-Johnson MPs are going to do that anyway if he loses this election; all these calls for unity are of course about everyone else falling into line rather than themselves.

 

[contadino]

I doubt that even the Johnson headbangers would stretch to supporting a vonc in the house, though. Not with so many polls currently being what they are.

Even if you're convinced that Johnson is a vote-magnet, he'd need a minimum of 6 months to bribe/butter up the electorate.

 

[elbows]

Tonights claim:

 

[Lord Camomile]

TBF the pro-Johnson MPs are going to do that anyway if he loses this election; all these calls for unity are of course about everyone else falling into line rather than themselves.

Christ, the Trump comparisons just keep coming...