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elbows said:
[..]I was taken by surprise by how rubbish her speaking performance was, and the undisguised political ambition on display.[..]
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She is obviously smart and capable. But, many of the folks who appear to want to be the next leader of the Tory Party they have a rather sterile media presence. If she gets the boot I'm sure she'll pop up on every TV show possible with a cuddler persona.
 
bemused said:
She is obviously smart and capable. But, many of the folks who appear to want to be the next leader of the Tory Party they have a rather sterile media presence. If she gets the boot I'm sure she'll pop up on every TV show possible with a cuddler persona.
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No, her trip to south georgia beckons: and with Theresa May's blessing. TM doesn't know it yet but she has signed her own canal digging warrant
 
elbows said:
In an attempt to maximise the comedy value that I hope to gain from her sacking, I thought that in advance of such an announcement I would check out her speech to the party conference this year. Having not bothered to follow press coverage of the conference or pay that much attention to her before, I was taken by surprise by how rubbish her speaking performance was, and the undisguised political ambition on display. Admittedly I only lasted about 3 or 4 minutes before I couldnt take any more, but little more seemed necessary given how she started with a joke about shortness that served to place her in a category of great leaders, and started framing everything around 'I' within a few minutes.

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Something really odd about that delivery. It's like her expressions and gestures don't match with what she is saying.
 
Peston's reporting that apparently she went behind the back of her own department.
The meeting which looks to have done for her was with Israel’s public security minister Gilad Erdan on September 7.

What is most shocking about this meeting is that it had been declined on her behalf by her department officials. But unbeknownst to them, it was then fixed up by her constituency office.

None of her officials attended it. The meeting was not minuted or recorded. The only other Briton present was the businessman and honorary presidential of Conservative Friends of Israel, Lord Polak.

If this had been isolated freelancing with a foreign government by Patel she might keep her job.

It wasn’t and she won’t.
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She isn't doing the Israeli tourist board any favours. Her holiday there sounds rubbish. Eilat is pretty grim, but it has to be better than a visit to a military field hospital.
 
The plot thickens - and I can't say I'm massively surprised

No 10 knew about Patel meetings

Number 10 instructed Development Secretary Priti Patel not to include her meeting with the Israel foreign ministry official Yuval Rotem in New York on 18 September in her list of undisclosed meetings with Israelis which was published on Monday, the JC has learned.

Ms Patel listed 12 meetings in the statement, and the emergence of two more last night is thought to have made her sacking imminent.

But the JC understands, from two different sources, that Ms Patel did disclose the meeting with Mr Rotem but was told by Number 10 not to include it as it would embarrass the Foreign and Commonwealth Office....
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teqniq said:
Why would they do something like that? The current administration is a fucking shambles to say the least, the last thing they need is more duplicitous shenanigans coming to light surely?
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In defence of Patel? I guess if she goes down over this then a future leadership bid could be damaged, sacrificed to save face for May who is frankly circling the plughole already. Why not sacrifice the already terminally damaged May instead?
 
killer b said:
In defence of Patel? I guess if she goes down over this then a future leadership bid could be damaged, sacrificed to save face for May who is frankly circling the plughole already. Why not sacrifice the already terminally damaged May instead?
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Im not sure they will let Mayhem go
 
killer b said:
In defence of Patel? I guess if she goes down over this then a future leadership bid could be damaged, sacrificed to save face for May who is frankly circling the plughole already. Why not sacrifice the already terminally damaged May instead?
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'....circling the plughole already' :D Well yes that's one analysis I hadn't considered, I think after reading the JC's article it felt to me more like disgruntled people at the FO, I guess we're never likely to know for sure.
 
killer b said:
In defence of Patel? I guess if she goes down over this then a future leadership bid could be damaged, sacrificed to save face for May who is frankly circling the plughole already. Why not sacrifice the already terminally damaged May instead?
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I was thinking in defence of Polak, primarily. It's just as embarrassing to him to suggest that he went off on an unauthorised mission as it is to Patel, and he doesn't want to be hung out to dry by a mendacious and backtracking number 10 any more than she does.
 
What kind a fucking shit show is being run by number 10 at the moment? Its shambolic disaster after disaster. Senior ministers resigning over sexual abuse scandals, whips appointing themselves to senior government roles, her Foreign Minister making a basic mistake when giving important evidence which could lead directly to catastrophic implications for a British citizen and her family and now this, Patel going rogue and seemingly not giving the slightest fuck.

You get the feeling that any sort of leadership or chain of command has completely disappeared and now people are just doing what the fuck they want. I have this image of May refusing to get up and out of bed with aides banging on her door and imploring her to get up and do something. She's utterly broken and destroyed. I agree with killer b there was a time for letting her carry on and take the flack from Brexit but right now the whole government and even the party is collapsing in on itself. If they allow this to carry on Corbyn will be in number 10 without a doubt, they have to do something, surely?
 
Teaboy said:
What kind a fucking shit show is being run by number 10 at the moment? Its shambolic disaster after disaster. Senior ministers resigning over sexual abuse scandals, whips appointing themselves to senior government roles, her Foreign Minister making a basic mistake when giving important evidence which could lead directly to catastrophic implications for a British citizen and her family and now this, Patel going rogue and seemingly not giving the slightest fuck.

You get the feeling that any sort of leadership or chain of command has completely disappeared and now people are just doing what the fuck they want. I have this image of May refusing to get up and out of bed with aides banging on her door and imploring her to get up and do something. She's utterly broken and destroyed. I agree with killer b there was a time for letting her carry on and take the flack from Brexit but right now the whole government and even the party is collapsing in on itself. If they allow this to carry on Corbyn will be in number 10 without a doubt, they have to do something, surely?
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yeh. but you won't like the something they do do.
 
should have chucked the towel in after securing the DUP votes. An ignominious end of a career but this clinging on...

still, I spose if you want the big chair that badly once you get it you hold on for dear life and comfort yourself with thinking about first ministers from the olden days who rescued victory from the jaws of
 
Teaboy said:
now this, Patel going rogue and seemingly not giving the slightest fuck.
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Or: Number 10 having its own pro-Israel foreign policy behind the back of the (traditionally Arabist) FCO, using Patel to carry it out, and then being utterly unable to organise a cover-up or to persuade her to take the fall.

Which is more interesting and now seems well evidenced.
 
Silas Loom said:
Or: Number 10 having its own pro-Israel foreign policy behind the back of the (traditionally Arabist) FCO, using Patel to carry it out, and then being utterly unable to organise a cover-up or to persuade her to take the fall.

Which is more interesting and now seems well evidenced.
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Interesting as of it'll be interesting to see if May makes it to tea time.
 
killer b said:
In defence of Patel? I guess if she goes down over this then a future leadership bid could be damaged, sacrificed to save face for May who is frankly circling the plughole already. Why not sacrifice the already terminally damaged May instead?
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Because some mug has to hold the Brexit baby, nobody else wants that job right now.
 
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