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that bit did seemed a bit rushed, didnt explain how the 456 had used the frequency to kill clem without killing itself, or if jack changed the frequecy to one fatal to 456 but not humans
Perhaps it doesn't affect them on transmission, but does on reception?
 
Sorry to lay in to your love-in, but the acting was bad, the writing woeful and the directing simply dreadful.

Hang on - I take serious issue with your comment about the directing -you're going to have to back that up. :mad::mad:
 
One 'good' kid died to save millions of 'bad' street hanging kids.

Kind of poetic considering what the so called good were prepared to do to protect themselves.
 
One 'good' kid died to save millions of 'bad' street hanging kids.

Kind of poetic considering what the so called good were prepared to do to protect themselves.

I never got that - we never saw whether he was a good kid or bad kid - I figured he was just a kid doomed by circumstances.
 
Hang on - I take serious issue with your comment about the directing -you're going to have to back that up. :mad::mad:

Well it wasn't the most imaginative interpretation of the script.

A bit by the numbers.

But I guess the director was up against it (time = money)

No director like's working for the beeb or tv for that matter
 
I never got that - we never saw whether he was a good kid or bad kid - I figured he was just a kid doomed by circumstances.

He would never have been in danger if he weren't Jack's grandson - he went to one of the 'good' schools.
 
just caught up with last episode, was working. does this mean no more torchwood? sorry if already asked/answered
 
Oh, you saw the script?

This certainly redefines my understanding of how the Beeb tender Directorship contracts . .

I'll be more than happy to talk to you about how the BBC do things.

And yes I did see the script.

Tired now and have two little ones to look after.

Be more than happy if you want to PM me tho.

:)
 
I never got that - we never saw whether he was a good kid or bad kid - I figured he was just a kid doomed by circumstances.

The evil woman referred to him as good.

I presume because he'd been well behaved whilst he was there, was well spoken plus generally nice and obviously not the street hanging scum type she then went on to mention.
 
The evil woman referred to him as good.

I presume because he'd been well behaved whilst he was there, was well spoken plus generally nice and obviously not the street hanging scum type she then went on to mention.


She said he'd be fine because all the nice kids would be.

(Except for poor Frobisher's kids. God, I still want to personally kill that Prime Minister).

I don't think nice was meant to say that he was actually nice and they weren't - it was nothing to do with his behaviour or personality. She was talking about class-based stereotypes.
 
The evil woman referred to him as good.

I presume because he'd been well behaved whilst he was there, was well spoken plus generally nice and obviously not the street hanging scum type she then went on to mention.

Ok - I think I wasn't thinking of her as a serious judge of a 'good kid' since she was such a fucknut herself.

Actually quite interested in what Badlands is saying since I wouldn't think many people would have much quarrel with the direction or production or whatever.

Though I can see the 'Pied Piper' point, there are a lot of other stories going on, too.
 
That was bloody phenomenal! Really fucking excellent and utterly devastating. I still feel really sick, from it. I keep thinking about how it was poor Alice who convinced Johnson that Jack could save them. She had such faith in her dad and the look she gave him when he was working things out, she was so proud of him. And then he killed her son.:(

I thought there must be some way around it.

I thought Jack would stop the signal before Stephen died and then go to the 456 and say: we know how to hurt you, so piss off. Which would probably have worked, stupid Jack.
 
I'll be more than happy to talk to you about how the BBC do things.

And yes I did see the script.

Tired now and have two little ones to look after.

Be more than happy if you want to PM me tho.

:)
In most cases the general public don't get to see the script so that's not what they base their opinion on. The concensus seems to be that this was a gripping piece of drama that the majority 'enjoyed' watching. To dismiss it as a 'love-in' makes you sound quite bitter. It also smacks of 'oooh look at me I know more about it than you'. I don't care what the script was and if it could have been done better (though we only have your opinion on that) The end result was good enough to have generated lengthy debate here and attracted millions of viewers. Once writers hand over scripts they have to trust that the director will have the same vision. In most cases I expect they don't but that's just tough. It doesn't just happen at the BBC, it happens in film and theatre as well.
 
Jack got the children to scare them off using their own whatsit waves – symmetry; came for the children, children (and Jack) saw them off.

I still love the idea they were intergalactic drug addicts: “What do you want them for?” “The hit”
 
Clearly no capitalists at the BBC. "Oh, you want them for a drug? Instead of kidnapping our children, why don't we isolate the chemical for you? That way we keep the kids and you get the drug."
 
Clearly no capitalists at the BBC. "Oh, you want them for a drug? Instead of kidnapping our children, why don't we isolate the chemical for you? That way we keep the kids and you get the drug."

Presumably if they were a super advanced species they'd have considered that themselves though and decided that it just wouldn't work well enough. Plus why would they bother? They think they can kill all humans anyway, they don't need to be arsed with bargaining or waitiing on manufacturing.
 
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