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Torchwood: Miracle Day

No more important than how the families discovered the blessing... which was covered in a single paragraph in the final show.
 
No more important than how the families discovered the blessing... which was covered in a single paragraph in the final show.

Now your getting it, the massive questions about how and why are just glossed over or tackled badly and there is loads of filler that was pointless.
 
The difference being it didn't affect how much I enjoyed the show... whereas something like "lost" lost me after the first few episodes when it became clear that it was never gonna end.

I guess I don't always expect a tv series to tie up all loose ends and explain every detail... as long as the story continues to grip me and I enjoy each individual episode for what it is.
 
If I was to rate this series i'd give it a C or thereabouts, but I still hope they get another shot at it. All of Torchwood's flaws are forgiveable, except for being dull which it was at times during this run. I hope RTD et al take it on board that a longer series isn't necessarily a good thing and come up with something a bit more refined. And no more sideplots about Gwen's boring family- that's another idea they pinched off 24 and it was rubbish on that show too.
 
I've just thought of a good example of how I think the flashbacks should have been done :cool:

they should have been done in a similar way to the how the highlander flashbacks were done. That would have been much better and they could have 2 different times for filler and develop Angelo (or whatever the lover was called) as a better character.
 
TOp TiP!!1! It made a lot more sense when you replaced 'bleh, bleh bleh the blessing' with 'bleh, bleh bleh brian blessed'
 
wish to see those people photographed with a copy of the days Times and a sign saying 'i loved torchwood' or else I shall have to consider you to be inventing imaginary support for your laughable claim that anyone really enjoyed this latest series

you made me laugh.
 
I'm thinking that the whole series was a parable about suicide bombers, judging by the amount of times people blew themselves up in it.
 
wish to see those people photographed with a copy of the days Times and a sign saying 'i loved torchwood' or else I shall have to consider you to be inventing imaginary support for your laughable claim that anyone really enjoyed this latest series

I'll have you know I ditched this post just over halfway through and I was right to do so...

;)
 
finally caught up with this last night, and, mmm, well it was rubbish wasn't it? None of it really made coherent sense, there were clear issues with the two production companies having different styles, pacing etc. But it was largely entertaining tosh too, with enough good bits to get by. I was surprised at who survived in the end, tho it would have been better to keep Charlotte in another series. That Danes topped himself whilst proudly exclaiming his continued paedophilia was marvellous.

If they do do a follow up series, they really should work out the plot properly tho.
 
from what i hear, RTD isn't banking on another series. i agree with you btw, entertaining rubbish.
 
Yeah - entertaining tosh, not great, full of holes but it kept me interested, more or less. And I thought Bill Pullman was very good.
 
I finally got a chance to watch the rest, and I really enjoyed it; I'm kinda glad now that I wasn't reading along with thread.

What I liked most about it was the same as with CoE: the fairly realistic depictions of how a world would cope with this kind of change. How some people would be bastards because they're just doing their job, how some horrible decisions would be made because the alternative was worse, how it would affect the global economy, that sort of thing. Some scifi shows seem to have amazing things happen in a bubble of main characters while the world carries on like normal outside, and this show shows the world outside the bubble.

Termite Man has a good solution to the flashback sequence - what made it boring really was having a third of an episode dedicated to it. It still could have been a lot shorter.

Answering the questions that were listed on the previous page (I copied them, but they copied as a picture for some reason, so I can't write in between each question):

The stuff being sent to Rex's phone at just the right moment, dramatically: yeah, that's a bit crap, but it's not some random guy texting him - it's that they finally retrieved the stuff after the explosion.

The three families could have continued living like aristocracy in a world of much 'better' people where they and they alone had control over who lived and died. What do you give to a man who's got everything and still wants more? Power over life and death for the entire world. I don't see that as implausible at all. ABSOLUTE POWER!!!

I have no answer about Danes. That didn't make any sense, I agree. The only explanations I can think of are too fan-wanky. I think he was there for Jack to have another child-killer to emote with.

The families had basically experimented on the blessing (Jack's words) using Jack's blood. It's feasible that they'd know how to stop the blessing if they chose to.

The death camps helped the families by getting rid of, well, the dead, which had to be done at some point (at least for the actually dead, rather than really ill), and changing people's whole way of thinking about what 'life' means, and exerting control. Once you've conceded to sending grandpa off to be burnt alive you're going to be more likely to do other things that you previously considered wrong.

Stockpiling painkillers would be a lot, in a world with unending pain and no death, but they owned a pharmaceutical company and had enough money and influence to own a lot of others, so that was probably just an example of one of many things they already owned. Also, they had control of the blessing.

The director of the CIA not being in a particular CIA office all the time does make sense. Why would he be there all the time? He's the director of the CIA, not that field office - and he only came in when the man responsible for that office 'died.'
 
"It just wasn't believable that the core of the earth contains a blessing that programs a morphic field to regulate all human life that can be reprogrammed for immortality... the science was full of holes."

:D
 
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His mad ranting was a definite highlight

I liked that they didn't redeem him. I'm fed up of really bad guys being redeemed by one final good act, as if it counted more than all the rest. He'd seen hell and wanted to go there because all the bad girls were there. :D

But I've always liked him as an actor since loving Spaceballs as a kid.
 
It was a high point for him, which only adds to the disappointment that he was mostly wasted because the writers didn't seem to know what to do with him half the time.
 
Intentional dp because for some reason the board won't let me quote otherwise and I can't find a way to delete this post.
 
I liked that they didn't redeem him. I'm fed up of really bad guys being redeemed by one final good act, as if it counted more than all the rest. He'd seen hell and wanted to go there because all the bad girls were there. :D

But I've always liked him as an actor since loving Spaceballs as a kid.

Omg I saw Spaceballs last week and never put two and two together.

He's so different now.
 
from what i hear, RTD isn't banking on another series. i agree with you btw, entertaining rubbish.
he has stopped his career for now
fair play to him, hope his partner gets better
http://sciencefiction.com/2011/12/0...-career-on-hold-is-this-the-end-of-torchwood/
In August, while on a short vacation back in England, Smith decided to see a doctor who diagnosed him with brain cancer and three days later underwent surgery. Almost immediately, Davies shut down his Hollywood life. “The lives we had in LA just sort of closed down overnight. All of my stuff, my computers and clothes were over there. We had to have everything shipped over here in crates. We were lucky we never sold our house in Manchester. Lo and behold we’re now a ten minute drive from Europe’s best cancer hospital.”
Davies now spends his time keeping Smith company. With regards to his work, Davies states:

“I’ve stopped work. I haven’t worked since August. We’re lucky we’ve got enough money in the bank that, if need be, I can take the whole of next year off… People keep asking me if I’ve really stopped working. I used to work so hard you see, they think I must be secretly working on something, but I’m not. It was a simple decision: he’s more important. Who gives a f**k about writing scripts if I can stay at home with him and make his day a bit happier? I don’t know when I’ll start work again. I’ve got to see how Andrew’s health goes”
 
I didn't even know there was such a thing as brain cancer. Hope his man is alright. People like to hate on RTD but I think he still did the business when on form and could do again if personal tragedy doesn't keep him out of the game
 
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