This is real crackpot stuff
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Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Chegwinists, Chegwinites or Chegwinians?
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Heretics will be hunted down by Cheggists.
A schism because of a divergence in doctrine or due to a disagreement over Keith's successor as head of the movement? (And in future times, will Chegwinists, be told that, in extremis, a Chegwinian minister is the next best thing?)
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I confess I didn't, I should have looked further.feel silly (again) now
I make so many err0rs I have seriously considered whether I should give up eating and let myself die as I am becoming a liab
I think we're all guilty of taking a news headline at face value at some point in our lives, because they confirm our beliefs or otherwise "sound right". There's no shame in that, headlines are deliberately written to grab attention and be provocative.
It's not the end of the world. We can always do better next time.
BassJunkie
Clams on the half shell, and roller skates.
I believe that globally the most frequently used news/media source is Facebook. So I guess that's the 'mainstream media'.
I don't have an account so can't access this mainstream media. I'm left with the likes of the BBC and the Guardian.
I can recommend these non mainstream media sites as good sources of information. Including about the virus and science more broadly.
T & P
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You are Peter Hitchens and I claim my £5
PETER HITCHENS: I am afraid for the future of freedom in my country
PETER HITCHENS: Covid exists. I wouldn't and don't deny it. But the phrase is a dog whistle, designed to make hearers think sceptics are like Holocaust deniers, a straightforward lie and smear.
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
Sorry I don't understand. My bad.
Are you saying dinosaurs are fake?
There's skeletons of them in museums.
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
I am stupid and a liability, I just keep those parts to myself and don't post them. Well some stupidity has been uncovered, but I am learning from it.
At the tender age of FIFTY four, rather than four.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
No, I misspoke.
Creationists either dismiss dinosaur bones as Satanically-inspired fakes made up by "evolutionists", or they say that the bones are proof of creation.
So likewise when you look on YouTube. You can find anything there. Whether it's credible or not is another matter.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Thing is, if you try doing that on crackpot channels, what tends to happen is that your comments get deleted, rather than being addressed.
And how can you tell if their evidence is credible or not? How would you research their research?
This is why, for example, an article in a scientific journal is peer reviewed -- someone with the requisite scientific knowledge has reviewed the method, the data and the results and found them credible. If you're not an expert in an area, how can you know enough to know whether something is credible or not? How can you know their results are reasonable, what data they've used?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Did you ever rate Dauntless Elite? They had a song with a line about "There's no world outside the Packhorse, only sellouts fools and pawns".This is ridiculous my local pub is in all the video being munted
James brown from the packhorse, who was a barman at the same time as the pub called the library over the road had a James Dean working behind the bar.
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
Ideally by asking a decent librarian as google is as much cop as a chocolate teapot, everyone seems to discredit everyone else.
EDIT - not fully answered post. Who is behind the peer reviews, the establishment, I would be telling myself lies if I said I trusted them. I am not an expert myself, I just feel that some research is not funded because someone refuses funding.
There are so many lies out there, fact checks who checks the fact checkers, who checks them, you could go on forever.
The transparency and simplicity has been removed so people do not know or think to check what is real anymore, me in clued.
The earth is a place that should never have had its resources taken but greed has left us this way. Humans have one and only one thing over animals, the ability to discern good from evil. It's ok in the animal world to prey on vulnerable animals as that is how animals eat, but humans are not animals, we prey psychologically on each other.
Respect the earth dont plunder it, resolve conflict in a mature way like the ancients did, and keep things simple the way nature's highly complex balance runs like clockwork, but we are a narcissistic species.
We should be allowed free thought and free speech and privacy, but these things are eroding and going back to research, we cannot google research and research of research to prove these rights are being taken away, because all of the credible evidence is taken away. Humans have a bill of rights which is being violated.
Did anyone watch my video on the erosion of privacy as although it is fiction, over the last several decades I have felt like th world is moving slowly this way.
No one has commented on the video, I would love to hear urbanites comments on it, remember it is science fiction.
I was hoping someone would watch it as I think its a good discussion point.
Shut the front door.
I don't actually know what that phrase means but I hear it's popular with the cool kids
I'm trying to but I keep distracting myself
. The first minute so far is good,. Going For A Contemplative Walk, and will properly focus on it when I'm back x
Also, panpete ...
Orang Utan and Pickman's model are the best librarians I've ever and never met. I trust their archives and their judgement and even sometimes their judgementalism
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Orang Utan and Pickman's model are the best librarians I've ever and never met. I trust their archives and their judgement and even sometimes their judgementalism
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Thank you! I like contextualising snippets I latch on to
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
Are they actual librarians? I wish I hadn't fallen for my Dad's line at 4 when mum asked him to take us to join the library "This place charges you fines" he didnt want us to read, his mother was well read, he knew the benefits of it, it is a place of wisdom, he wanted an air head, he wouldn't even get me tested for giftedness like my mum wanted.Also, panpete ...
Orang Utan and Pickman's model are the best librarians I've ever and never met. I trust their archives and their judgement and even sometimes their judgementalism
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Flavour
hang the bankers
panpete can you please stop idealizing "the ancients" as if:
1) it was all milk and honey at some unspecified point in the past -- it wasn't. life was hard. life for women was especially hard, and shit, and violent.
2) all the ancients were the same (they weren't)
3) there was some specific point where we "stopped" being the "ancients" and became the modern "bad" people who mistreat the Earth and stuff. this is not simple black and white fairytale. it's a very complex history -- actually, it's the ENTIRETY of all human history -- and simplifying it to try and make a nice narrative where the past = good and now = bad is to both completely misunderstand everything we know about the past and to discount all the progress we have made, all the ways life has got better for us (often at the expense of the environment/animals, sure, but not always, and don't think for one second that the "ancients" didn't mistreat animals too)
1) it was all milk and honey at some unspecified point in the past -- it wasn't. life was hard. life for women was especially hard, and shit, and violent.
2) all the ancients were the same (they weren't)
3) there was some specific point where we "stopped" being the "ancients" and became the modern "bad" people who mistreat the Earth and stuff. this is not simple black and white fairytale. it's a very complex history -- actually, it's the ENTIRETY of all human history -- and simplifying it to try and make a nice narrative where the past = good and now = bad is to both completely misunderstand everything we know about the past and to discount all the progress we have made, all the ways life has got better for us (often at the expense of the environment/animals, sure, but not always, and don't think for one second that the "ancients" didn't mistreat animals too)
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
Hi Flavour
There were fewer of us, there were no shops, people knew the healing plants, how do you think ayahuasca was discovered, by accident?
Unfortunately we are not very far into the Kali Yuga which is the darkest yuga
There are four of them.
The Kali Yuga which is the one we are in. I get my info from Vedic literature, the vedas are some of the oldest scriptures and are mathematically and scientifically correct.
I believe in the steady state theory, no beginning and no end, just cycles of time. I have not believed in the Big Bang for decades, not because of Icke or anyone, he might believe in it. The universe is infinitely big and infinitely small at the same time, infinitely big is easy to describe, it goes on infinitely, to describe infinitely small we get into quantum stuff which is where my knowledge is limited but I am willing to learn.
I think intelligent people dont want to talk to me, in the same way academics dont want to talk to people who read the sun and watch the soaps, which is sad because I was born intelligent I just l0st it due to my dysfunctional response to abuse. Reading would have maintained my intelligence, I would not be being ignored or having people lose their patience with me, people on here would want to engage with me more, but I feel loathed to go back to trying to be like the sun readers, the in crowd, as its boring.
I have nothing good to say about the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution. William Blake describes it well with his satanic mills. We have hybridised wheat so it can be grown en masse, we were never meant to be en masse, the population was never meant to be this big. Hybridised wheat contains too much gluten, I am wheat intolerant but I still eat it as its in everything and I lost six/seven stone in weight so I cant be too fussy what I eat. We were never meant to plunder the natural resources of other countries and take the inhabitants as slaves, such as Africa, however we are in the Kali Yuga which is the dark age and this is what we do. The other three cycles mentioned below were progressively more spiritual and more divine, so we just have to lump it.
Good and evil oscillate and so do the four cycles of time, the Kali Yuga, preceded by the Dvapara Yuga, before that the Treta Yuga and before that the Satya Yuga. These cycles repeat infinitely, I could explain what they are and how long they last, they tie in mathematically but I am not confident that people think this woo-woo. I take this knowledge from parts of the vedas, I have read parts of the Bhagavad Gita, and the Mahabarata, I just so wished I had read them when I was younger.
I might stand a better chance of leaving some good legacy on the earth. I am not lying when my early school teachers thought I was highly intelligent and my mum thought I was gifted, trying to be like the cool kids is where I went wrong, sorry this has digressed a little, I am open to hearing about the dark side of ancient history. There were wars obviously but they were fought differently. Lao Tzu wrote about the art of war, I read it (late) and because I read it late in life it went over my head a bit.
PS there are a tiny few tribes left in the world that refuse western contact and they live in harmony with nature, harmony with nature is simple, as time has gone on we have made life more complex. Some of us are on hamster wheels, work, tv, pub, holidays once a year, rinse and repeat. Schools indoctrinate, Religions control, libraries educate, but they are being cut back because apparently google is better, it spews out millions of results where a librarian can get you one book if you ask them a question.
Can you elaborate please, I am happy to read sources?
There were fewer of us, there were no shops, people knew the healing plants, how do you think ayahuasca was discovered, by accident?
I believe we go through cycles of time, the hindus call them yugas.
Unfortunately we are not very far into the Kali Yuga which is the darkest yuga
There are four of them.
The Kali Yuga which is the one we are in. I get my info from Vedic literature, the vedas are some of the oldest scriptures and are mathematically and scientifically correct.
I believe in the steady state theory, no beginning and no end, just cycles of time. I have not believed in the Big Bang for decades, not because of Icke or anyone, he might believe in it. The universe is infinitely big and infinitely small at the same time, infinitely big is easy to describe, it goes on infinitely, to describe infinitely small we get into quantum stuff which is where my knowledge is limited but I am willing to learn.
I think intelligent people dont want to talk to me, in the same way academics dont want to talk to people who read the sun and watch the soaps, which is sad because I was born intelligent I just l0st it due to my dysfunctional response to abuse. Reading would have maintained my intelligence, I would not be being ignored or having people lose their patience with me, people on here would want to engage with me more, but I feel loathed to go back to trying to be like the sun readers, the in crowd, as its boring.
I have nothing good to say about the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution. William Blake describes it well with his satanic mills. We have hybridised wheat so it can be grown en masse, we were never meant to be en masse, the population was never meant to be this big. Hybridised wheat contains too much gluten, I am wheat intolerant but I still eat it as its in everything and I lost six/seven stone in weight so I cant be too fussy what I eat. We were never meant to plunder the natural resources of other countries and take the inhabitants as slaves, such as Africa, however we are in the Kali Yuga which is the dark age and this is what we do. The other three cycles mentioned below were progressively more spiritual and more divine, so we just have to lump it.
Good and evil oscillate and so do the four cycles of time, the Kali Yuga, preceded by the Dvapara Yuga, before that the Treta Yuga and before that the Satya Yuga. These cycles repeat infinitely, I could explain what they are and how long they last, they tie in mathematically but I am not confident that people think this woo-woo. I take this knowledge from parts of the vedas, I have read parts of the Bhagavad Gita, and the Mahabarata, I just so wished I had read them when I was younger.
I might stand a better chance of leaving some good legacy on the earth. I am not lying when my early school teachers thought I was highly intelligent and my mum thought I was gifted, trying to be like the cool kids is where I went wrong, sorry this has digressed a little, I am open to hearing about the dark side of ancient history. There were wars obviously but they were fought differently. Lao Tzu wrote about the art of war, I read it (late) and because I read it late in life it went over my head a bit.
PS there are a tiny few tribes left in the world that refuse western contact and they live in harmony with nature, harmony with nature is simple, as time has gone on we have made life more complex. Some of us are on hamster wheels, work, tv, pub, holidays once a year, rinse and repeat. Schools indoctrinate, Religions control, libraries educate, but they are being cut back because apparently google is better, it spews out millions of results where a librarian can get you one book if you ask them a question.
