This is real crackpot stuff

[tufty79]

ALL IN THE SCROLLS PETE

JIMMY FUCKING SAVILE EXPOSED ON VINYL BEFORE THE SCANDAL CAME OUT. HAINES IS A MODERN DAY JOHNNY ROTTEN



that's where my brain is going. Thank fuck, I was confusing even me there.

I realise now that I was having a hypo durig my superconnecting the dots Haines savile revalation session. I've drunk 15g of sugary carbs in a can of coke and returning to earth slowly

 

[Serge Forward]

No. Some people's interpretations of science are 'ok'.

No he really isn't.

Do yourself a favour, both read and think about this book. Then think about it some more.

The Demon-Haunted World | Random House Group

www.randomhousebooks.com

Carl Sagan was the bizzo! His Cosmos series on telly, and the book version, was ace.

 

[panpete]

you should spend this lockdown occupying your mind with things that arent a never ending blackhole of bullshit. ive bought a book on how to draw and its not going very well but its still more productive than this nonsense

Might be nonsense to you but healthy debate is not nonsense.

 

[panpete]

This is morphing into the God botherers thread

Depends what you define as God.
Man in the sky with a big white beard, not happening.
Creator of everything, yeah I can go with that, and I follow no religion.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Last batch of mushrooms I had, I went to the cathedral in the Swedish city I was briefly living in. I was informed by God, that I must attract the spaceships that use the cathedral as a portal. And as everyone knows, you have to move to music perfectly in order that the can find your frequency. Which i did. Dancing the fuck out of a archway on my own, in the freezing dark of a swedish decmber night. And sure enough the spaceship arrived and performed a download to my brain. Shifted that winters depression. I'm not taking the piss. It worked.

 

[panpete]

Last batch of mushrooms I had, I went to the cathedral in the Swedish city I was briefly living in. I was informed by God, that I must attract the spaceships that use the cathedral as a portal. And as everyone knows, you have to move to music perfectly in order that the can find your frequency. Which i did. Dancing the fuck out of a archway on my own, in the freezing dark of a swedish decmber night. And sure enough the spaceship arrived and performed a download to my brain. Shifted that winters depression. I'm not taking the piss. It worked.

My mushroom trips taught me the relationship between nature and mathematics.
They taught me, using my own body, how to relax.
They taught me that there is a natural law which nature follows.
Maybe my shrooms were a bit more geekier than yours

 

[Argonia]

I've had similar experiences on mushrooms, once I realised that all cathedrals are spaceships waiting to go into the cosmos - hence the word 'nave'.

 

[panpete]

I've had similar experiences on mushrooms, once I realised that all cathedrals are spaceships waiting to go into the cosmos - hence the word 'nave'.

Dunno where you got your shrooms from. I used to have weird reactions to ecstasy, psychedelic and visits by entities, not nice, as I dont want to be used as a medium.
Shrooms on the other hand, nature, mathematics, it was always the maths theme with my shroom trips.

 

[Argonia]

Got my shrooms from Amsterdam. Just went straight into a shop and asked for the strongest they had. Miss the ability to do that. I think I also experienced a sense of mathematics as underlying the universe as well.

 

[krtek a houby]

Might be nonsense to you but healthy debate is not nonsense.

It's not particularly healthy to entertain bizarre and often anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, imho.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've had similar experiences on mushrooms, once I realised that all cathedrals are spaceships waiting to go into the cosmos - hence the word 'nave'.

i've never seen this sort of navel gazing before

 

[tufty79]

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

My mushroom trips taught me the relationship between nature and mathematics.
They taught me, using my own body, how to relax.
They taught me that there is a natural law which nature follows.
Maybe my shrooms were a bit more geekier than yours

no. I hate maths. Therefore, it has never been anything I have pursued and it's not going to bother me on a trip. SPaceships on the other hand, I've seen space trek before, obvious innit.

 

[tufty79]

<honk>

 

[panpete]

Got my shrooms from Amsterdam. Just went straight into a shop and asked for the strongest they had. Miss the ability to do that. I think I also experienced a sense of mathematics as underlying the universe as well.

Deffo the mathematics. I never knew Alex Grey before I did psychedelics. When I saw his stuff, I thought, what? that bloke hasn't been in my mind, yet he (and others) Scott Cramer is great - painting rows, columns, grids, tesselations.
Made me think of Jung's collective consciousness, not that I know much about that but why are all these artists drawing what I have just seen?
I was the only one tripping and seeing patterns of the three of us who took the same E.
Shrooms though, they seemed the safest and the most earthy.
LSD was like a ride in an invisible universe, a bit like this vid, the giggles got a bit intense for me though, funny at first until I couldn't stop and people surrounded my tent laughing at my laughter.

 

[panpete]

no. I hate maths. Therefore, it has never been anything I have pursued and it's not going to bother me on a trip. SPaceships on the other hand, I've seen space trek before, obvious innit.

I used to liken "E trips" to being on the hollodeck. I used to see on E, objects that had been constructed from materials we use, glass, plastic, metals, that served no purpose, maybe my Asperger's made me react to E differently because the only common reaction I had to it with others was the music. I can see music as 3d moving sculptures, always have done, I can also hear visual stimuli.

 

[tufty79]

Have you ever read any Alexander shulgin, Pete?

 

[panpete]

Have you ever read any Alexander shulgin, Pete?

I haven't, was going to but lost interest in man made psychedelics.

 

[spanglechick]

I was a practicing catholic at 8 and we were not known for our woo woo beliefs..

I mean...

Trying not to be intolerant here, but this is a religion that talks non stop about a ghost.

Religion generally, requires belief in supernatural powers and beings. The very definition of “woo”. I mean, it’s mainstream woo, to be certain. But I don’t think you can invoke Catholicism as evidence for your childhood adherence to rationality and the scientific method.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Shrooms though, they seemed the safest and the most earthy.

yes. Never been scared on shrooms. Dont want to touch their dirty LSD.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was a practicing catholic at 8 and we were not known for our woo woo beliefs.

catholics are known for little else

 

[panpete]

I mean...

Trying not to be intolerant here, but this is a religion that talks non stop about a ghost.

Religion generally, requires belief in supernatural powers and beings. The very definition of “woo”. I mean, it’s mainstream woo, to be certain. But I don’t think you can invoke Catholicism as evidence for your childhood adherence to rationality and the scientific method.

Try telling a Catholic priest you think your friend's cousins house is haunted? I wouldn't have at 8.
The Bible is a book of allegories, I see the "Holy Ghost" or "Holy Spirit" as a force that bestows us with innate talents.
I only mentioned my catholicism because I believed it at 8, yet sensed this feeling also.

 

[panpete]

yes. Never been scared on shrooms. Dont want to touch their dirty LSD.

I shouldn't have touched their dirty LSD either even if it is pharm grade, or E.
Why have LSD when the earth provides shrooms.
Didnt know better back then though.

 

[Pickman's model]

Try telling a Catholic priest you think your friend's cousins house is haunted? I wouldn't have at 8.
The Bible is a book of allegories, I see the "Holy Ghost" or "Holy Spirit" as a force that bestows us with innate talents.
I only mentioned my catholicism because I believed it at 8, yet sensed this feeling also.

the bible being a book of allegories is i understand not a catholic opinion but a gnostic one

 

[panpete]

the bible being a book of allegories is i understand not a catholic opinion but a gnostic one

I agree Bible is not a Catholic opinion. It's also been messed about with.

 

[tufty79]

Deffo the mathematics. I never knew Alex Grey before I did psychedelics. When I saw his stuff, I thought, what? that bloke hasn't been in my mind, yet he (and others) Scott Cramer is great - painting rows, columns, grids, tesselations.
Made me think of Jung's collective consciousness, not that I know much about that but why are all these artists drawing what I have just seen?
I was the only one tripping and seeing patterns of the three of us who took the same E.
Shrooms though, they seemed the safest and the most earthy.
LSD was like a ride in an invisible universe, a bit like this vid, the giggles got a bit intense for me though, funny at first until I couldn't stop and people surrounded my tent laughing at my laughter.

Omg I took mushrooms for the first time at this and it was fucking hilarious I will elaborate later

 

[Pickman's model]

I agree Bible is not a Catholic opinion. It's also been messed about with.

yeh. by the catholics. who do you think selected the books to go in the bible?

 

[panpete]

yeh. by the catholics. who do you think was at the council of nicea which selected the books to go in the bible?

I don't know enough about it to be honest. I have no reason to disbelieve you though, with my experience of Catholicism.

 

[tufty79]

Omg I took mushrooms for the first time at this and it was fucking hilarious I will elaborate later

This is ridiculous my local pub is in all the video being munted

James brown from the packhorse, who was a barman at the same time as the pub called the library over the road had a James Dean working behind the bar.

He's a really talented artist, animator, chaos merchant, psychonaut,and started s record label and then a still successful band - that fucking tank



Pocket rich, whose paintings I burned and they're probably with something now

Let's see if I pop up on drugs ;D



Fucking archives of brain

 

[Flavour]

I wonder if the supposed moon landings were done in a Hollywood studio myself, still unsure.

Yeah obviously a Hollywood studio, question is which one? Paramount's car park is tiny, you'd never get all the stuff in and out without raising eyebrows, and it's actually right in the fucking middle of LA so it's a bit conspicuous. Plus Dave the Sponge who did the security back in the 60s he was a big mouth.

Can't have been Universal either, they were filming Anne of the Thousand Days on the main set throughout the summer of 69, most of the others were doing TV at the time, and besides I don't think they were too friendly with NASA after that big bust up at the Gleneagle hotel where Alfred Hitchcock (on an exclusive Universal contract at the time) insulted Alan Shepard. Not a pretty sight, as Bobby One-Chop recalls.

Could have been MGM, grant you that -- they did film 2001 Space Odyssey the same year to be fair. Kubrick obviously very talented.

Can't have been Warner Bros: they're not Jews.