Theresa May's time is up

[Sasaferrato]

For who though?

For everyone.

 

[killer b]

What a bunch of posh yobs these MPs are? They have nothing better to do than stoking crisis in their own house.

I'm fine with that tbf

 

[Teaboy]

Apparently this is happening:
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Why didn't Davis just get a better deal when he was supposedly in charge of the show?

 

[Sasaferrato]

At the moment the DUP can take comfort in the fact that Parliament is not behind May's deal so can say with confidence they'd back her in a vonc. It would be interesting to see if May can get those numbers to change and could potentially get her deal through with the backstop intact, under those circumstances would the DUP pull the plug on their arrangement? That is one route to a GE.

The DUP are at least as amoral as all politicians, keeping their jobs, and in the case of the DUP their influence, is their paramount objective.

I can't see the DUP forcing a GE, because then they sink back to obscurity, but I can't see them supporting a withdrawal that ensures a 'border in the Irish sea' either.

There has to be a border between the UK and the EU somewhere if the UK leaves the EU, so if not between NI & Eire, and not in the Irish Sea, then where?

Sad days when a handful of NI nutters hold the fate of the country.

 

[Ranbay]

she will win this....

 

[Ranbay]

she wont win this....

 

[Kaka Tim]

hmm - looks like may winning - but by a fairly narrow margin (please let it be 52/48%)- could be a likely outcome. But that might not save her - her own cabinet might decide to push her out.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Why didn't Davis just get a better deal when he was supposedly in charge of the show?

Well, the Eye was castigating him for doing fuck all for at least a year. Apparently his Civil Servants described him being 'as idle as a sloth and as vain as Adonis'. He didn't read the documents sent to him.

 

[Teaboy]

The DUP are at least as amoral as all politicians, keeping their jobs, and in the case of the DUP their influence, is their paramount objective.

I can't see the DUP forcing a GE, because then they sink back to obscurity, but I can't see them supporting a withdrawal that ensures a 'border in the Irish sea' either.

There has to be a border between the UK and the EU somewhere if the UK leaves the EU, so if not between NI & Eire, and not in the Irish Sea, then where?

Sad days when a handful of NI nutters hold the fate of the country.

Its not them really though this time, May can't even command enough support from her own side. At the moment the DUP's votes are not critical to the outcome of the Brexit vote, they are critical to her being able to govern.

 

[gentlegreen]

(please let it be 52/48%)

 

[billy_bob]

A Corbyn government would not be a daydream, it would be a nightmare.

I don't agree with that, but I do think getting in almost entirely thanks to the ineptitude and/or internal treachery of the Tory party would not be the best of starts for a Corbyn government. It would have enough shit to put up with from the hostile media already. It would help to be able to dick-slap them with a strong, positive mandate rather than a 'I don't think much of him, but the other party are literally tearing themselves apart so hey ho' one.

 

[Wilf]

The no confidence vote adds to the image of everything being a fuck up, but almost certainly strengthens may. She knows the challenge has happened, can't happen again and will win it. It then goes to the majority. She's almost certainly shameless enough to carry on with a 60/40 win, though that would be dangerous territory. But anything like 70/30 or better strengthens her.

Is it secret ballot though? Could be loyalists committing to her in public...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Like Macron vs Le Pen, May will win tonight as the alternative is too awful to stomach.

 

[billy_bob]

The no confidence vote adds to the image of everything being a fuck up, but almost certainly strengthens may. She knows the challenge has happened, can't happen again and will win it. It then goes to the majority. She's almost certainly shameless enough to carry on with a 60/40 win, though that would be dangerous territory. But anything like 70/30 or better strengthens her.

Is it secret ballot though? Could be loyalists committing to her in public...

It is secret.

 

[gentlegreen]

The vile Tory party propaganda videoes made it easy for me to vote for Corbyn last time - in spite of so many of his promises seeming like pie in the sky.
I'm happy to settle for politicians' exagerations in place of the current Brexit insanity.

 

[killer b]

I think Rob Ford has it here:

 

[Wilf]

Better the robotic dullard you know.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Best case scenario for tory moderates is another incompetent centrist with zero popular appeal, worst case is obviously pretty bad.

 

[killer b]

The best case for tory centrists really is May.

 

[Wilf]

The best case for tory centrists really is May.

Yep and the erg lot have actually tied those centrists to may even closer by calling this vote.

 

[Wilf]

Presumably, victory of less than 30 and even our limpet like PM thinks about resigning
Wins by 30 - 60 and a lot of her MPs tell her to fuck off (but she doesn't)
60 - 80 everybody pretends the whole thing didn't happen
80+ she does a 'shhh' to the crowd and then runs round with her jumper over her head.

 

[Pickman's model]

The DUP are at least as amoral as all politicians, keeping their jobs, and in the case of the DUP their influence, is their paramount objective.

I can't see the DUP forcing a GE, because then they sink back to obscurity, but I can't see them supporting a withdrawal that ensures a 'border in the Irish sea' either.

There has to be a border between the UK and the EU somewhere if the UK leaves the EU, so if not between NI & Eire, and not in the Irish Sea, then where?

Sad days when a handful of NI nutters hold the fate of the country.

for a billion pounds you'd expect to have bought them rather than only rented them

 

[Kaka Tim]

may looking quite firsky in house of commons - i think she knows shes safe(ish).

 

[Wilf]

may looking quite firsky in house of commons - i think she knows shes safe(ish).

Afterwards, she will ceremonially break Jacob Rees-Mogg's specs in two.

 

[Wilf]

Could we see the dance again tonight? Maybe even have another go at a bag of chips?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Looks like Moggy will become an even bigger laughing stock than he has been up to this point.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Afterwards, she will ceremonially break Jacob Rees-Mogg's specs in two.

 

[Teaboy]

Wins by 30 - 60 and a lot of her MPs tell her to fuck off (but she doesn't)

But surely a lot of those votes would have come from the wingnut brexiteer side of the party? Surely they will just accept the vote as carried out in good faith and respect its outcome without complaint?

 

[Pickman's model]

may looking quite firsky in house of commons - i think she knows shes safe(ish).

only while the cameras are on her tho

 

[not-bono-ever]

she is dead inside