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The Virgin Mary
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nogojones
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And from here on in, every hurricane brewed up in the Gulf will be her tears and farts
bcuster
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nogojones
spelling is overrated
Sorry. I forgot she seldom farts, but when she does they smell of Incense
Humberto
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Is your point, the Virgin Mary did farts?
Seems a low blow. I do low drama sureptitious type farts regularly.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
A fictional character or a fake virgin
nogojones
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It's exploring the duality of divinity. Part woman, part spirit to be prayed to.
And St Peter will have noticed your "low blow" quip. That's an extra millennium or two in purgatory.
I think Mary is just human according to Catholic theology? Otherwise that whole trinity doctrine problem has got even worse. Those singular one and only one true Gods are multiplying!
nogojones
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I think catholicism did sort of co-opt some paganistic ideas though, particularly being a bit fast and loose with the concepts of mono/polytheism, with the idea of the Trinity/The One and Mary and the saints who you can prey to, and who can put a word in for you with the big fella. And late pagan monotheism, seeing Zeus as the king of gods. It helped pave the way for Christianity and Christian concepts
bcuster
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There's a lot of truth to this
BBC - History - Ancient History in depth: The Pagan Shadow of Christ?
Did Mithraism influence Christianity? By Professor Roger Beck
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i would have thought that mithraism would be a more obvious example of late pagan monotheism.
T & P
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Atheist here so I take no sides regardless of my background, but I have always found the differing preferences of devotion for God, Jesus, and Mary between the Catholic and various Protestant denominations quite interesting. I would suggest that Jesus comes third in the most prayed/ mentioned rankings in Catholic countries and communities, and that God trumps Jesus in Church of England territories, but Jesus comes up top in the US of A. In other words:
Catholic countries/ communities:
1. God
2. Virgin Mary
3. Jesus
Anglican and other European Protestant communities:
1. God
2. Jesus
USA-based Protestant churches :
1. Jesus
2. More Jesus
3. Jesus is my friend
4. Honorary mention to that God bloke who fathered Jesus
Spare a thought for poor old Holy Spirit, though
Catholic countries/ communities:
1. God
2. Virgin Mary
3. Jesus
Anglican and other European Protestant communities:
1. God
2. Jesus
USA-based Protestant churches :
1. Jesus
2. More Jesus
3. Jesus is my friend
4. Honorary mention to that God bloke who fathered Jesus
Spare a thought for poor old Holy Spirit, though
Humberto
anthropocene participant
If you are praying to Jesus you are praying to God the Father. Praying to the Holy Spirit is acknowledged as worthwhile and neglected under the current pontificate. The trinity is one of the things that are somewhat incomprehensible. Whether to independent scrutiny or to humanity is a question you bring up.Atheist here so I take no sides regardless of my background, but I have always found the differing preferences of devotion for God, Jesus, and Mary between the Catholic and various Protestant denominations quite interesting. I would suggest that Jesus comes third in the most prayed/ mentioned rankings in Catholic countries and communities, and that God trumps Jesus in Church of England territories, but Jesus comes up top in the US of A. In other words:
Catholic countries/ communities:
1. God
2. Virgin Mary
3. Jesus
Anglican and other European Protestant communities:
1. God
2. Jesus
USA-based Protestant churches :
1. Jesus
2. More Jesus
3. Jesus is my friend
4. Honorary mention to that God bloke who fathered Jesus
Spare a thought for poor old Holy Spirit, though
bcuster
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Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God the Father are consubstantialAtheist here so I take no sides regardless of my background, but I have always found the differing preferences of devotion for God, Jesus, and Mary between the Catholic and various Protestant denominations quite interesting. I would suggest that Jesus comes third in the most prayed/ mentioned rankings in Catholic countries and communities, and that God trumps Jesus in Church of England territories, but Jesus comes up top in the US of A. In other words:
Catholic countries/ communities:
1. God
2. Virgin Mary
3. Jesus
Anglican and other European Protestant communities:
1. God
2. Jesus
USA-based Protestant churches :
1. Jesus
2. More Jesus
3. Jesus is my friend
4. Honorary mention to that God bloke who fathered Jesus
Spare a thought for poor old Holy Spirit, though
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It's a patch not a part of a bigger system of thought.
Baptism of Jesus in Mark
Jesus' Baptism - Mark 1:9-11 - NCEC
In those days Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptised by John in the Jordan. And just as he was coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens torn apart and the Spirit descending like a dove on him. And a voice came from heaven, “You are my Son, the Beloved; […]
ncec.catholic.edu.au
You see if it's all about the substance of the being Jesus then then why is his baptism so significant in Mark?
You can just go to Luke instead of course who says he was never even baptised. But Mark is still considered canonical.
Is there a patch for this?
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