The Traitors ‘24 (starts Wed 3/1/24 9pm).

[Voley]

Bit worried about Mollie tbh. That was grim.

I’ve now watched the first episode of the Australian Traitors. Two out of the three traitors are making Paul seem like a fluffy kitten. However, none of them seem to be very clever

However, that sounds promising.

 

[ska invita]

Unbelievable final, about the most entertaining thing I've ever watched! The only comparable thing I can think of was Spurs two-leg win again Man City in the Champion League in 2019 ((Man City 4-3 Tottenham (Agg: 4-4) ))... the kind of action and drama you can't write, it can only happen live. Its why 'reality' beats any written story.

H....

Amazing...she didnt really take that long to write that H (in the edit at least).... Mollie!! What a life lesson..... Imagine if she kept writing......... would've been a revolution against the lying bastard patriarchy
instead ......

 

[Agent Sparrow]

For non Traitors purposes, I am ploughing through a paper about how stress and perceived threat shuts down our frontal cortex and ability to think clearly. Mollie is such a clear example, you could literally see it happening in those final moments.

I also hope she’s ok and isn’t going to be too affected by this. She’s young and you can see the potential for it diminishing her capacity to trust, even temporarily. Even though she logically knew it was “just a game”.

 

[Voley]

Traitors Australia is well worth a watch. We're three episodes in and highlight so far is

Spoiler: Spoiler

Traitors already attacking each other and, best of all, a mission that ends up with someone rowing a boat so badly it fucking sinks.

 

[Voley]

Also, there's a clinical psychologist on it who's almost as bad as the psychics on previous series.

 

[Numbers]

I’ve just started episode 2. I like it.

 

[Numbers]

Also, there's a clinical psychologist on it who's almost as bad as the psychics on previous series.

I like her, she looks like my cousin.

A certain traitor doesn’t look like they’re gonna last too long, far too obvious so early.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Also, there's a clinical psychologist on it who's almost as bad as the psychics on previous series.

Psychotherapist thank you very much! But yes, she is shit!

Being a few episodes in now, I think both 2024 series (UK and Australian) are a really perfect example of white men being automatically believed over everyone else. Fucks sake, there could be social science papers written about this sadly predictable shit.

 

[Numbers]

Won’t read your spoiler yet Voley but best bit for me.

-do I know you?
-you know that Bomb disposal guy that was eaten by a shark in Sydney harbour
-yea
-that’s me

 

[wtfftw]

Ok. This is going further up my watch pile.

 

[ska invita]

Traitors Faithful Mollie quits social media after abuse

Fans have been sending abusive message because of her decision

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Real world consequences

 

[gosub]

Traitors Faithful Mollie quits social media after abuse

Fans have been sending abusive message because of her decision

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Real world consequences

Doing telly this morning..think she'll be OK...
Harry though not so sure...90k to basically permanently brand yourself as a panto villan

 

[ska invita]

I hope they've got professional support ...

Extreme cases but it can be the kind kf thing that haunts you for years

Why suicide is still the shadow that hangs over reality TV

The death of Hana Kimura, who had just taken part in the Japanese reality show Terrace House, is another tragic reminder that action is urgently needed

www.theguardian.com

 

[Saffy]

I'm going to start the Australian second series today. I feel like we need to align our viewing. I love a watch along together.

 

[Numbers]

I'm going to start the Australian second series today. I feel like we need to align our viewing. I love a watch along together.

I was going to watch just 1 y/day but managed 4.

 

[Voley]

Yeah we were going to do an episode at a time but we did 3 hours of it last night.

 

[kabbes]

It’s Jaz that I feel for. He played it about as well as was possible for a faithful, and he almost managed to persuade Mollie at the crucial moment. Almost. Throughout the game, he was up against a power bloc that was difficult to break open. Despite that, he avoided getting murdered or banished, and he gradually removed the traitors at the right time. But he couldn’t quite nail that final one.

Mollie will be fine. If she’s learned not to put blind trust in a pretty face that is whispering to her the things she wants to hear, that can only be a useful life lesson. It’s hardly the world’s most traumatic betrayal — this was the whole game.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Jaz and Harry undoubtedly the VIPs of the series, both getting to the final round was well deserved.

Anyone who says in their defence 'at the end of the day I'm 100% faithful and if you vote me out you'll regret it' (or words to that effect) deserved to be both banished AND murdered.

 

[MBV]

The casting team did a great job of selecting the players. It would be interesting to hear what the process is like.

 

[Numbers]

Yeah we were going to do an episode at a time but we did 3 hours of it last night.

One of the traitors

Spoiler: Traitor

Sam

is so shit, aggressive etc. they’re obvs out soon.

I was a bit tipsy by the end of my viewing y/day I can’t remember how it ended and they may very well be out already.

 

[ska invita]

Mollie will be fine. If she’s learned not to put blind trust in a pretty face that is whispering to her the things she wants to hear, that can only be a useful life lesson. It’s hardly the world’s most traumatic betrayal — this was the whole game.

She lost a hundred k, on the most watched program in the country , and has social media on her case, not quite as simple as that

 

[danny la rouge]

She lost a hundred k on the list raided program in the country and has social media on her case, not quite as simple as that

She never had £100k. She failed to win it. As Harry would have done had she voted against him.

However, it must be rubbish to have the general public wailing hate at you. She’s a kid who was on a game show; she doesn’t deserve the troll fest.

Interesting article:

UK's "Love Island" Reality TV Show and a Spate of Suicides

Can psychologists explain an apparent cluster of suicides on UK's 'Love Island'?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[kabbes]

She lost a hundred k, on the most watched program in the country , and has social media on her case, not quite as simple as that

She lost 32k compared with what she was expecting. Or £48k as compared with what she would have won by listening to Jaz. There was no scenario in which she could win 100k.

Meanwhile, she won exactly the same amount as everybody else on that show except for Harry. When you go into a game show, you have to be prepared for the fact that you won’t win it. I don’t think that fact will leave lasting trauma.

Meanwhile, what happens now on social media is separate to what transpired then during what was a game. The whole game is based around lying to and backstabbing other players. Bit much to expect that players then won’t lie and backstab.

 

[smmudge]

Meanwhile, she won exactly the same amount as everybody else on that show except for Harry. When you go into a game show, you have to be prepared for the fact that you won’t win it. I don’t think that fact will leave lasting trauma.

Yes although she probably truly believed she was about to win £32k, then very almost DID win £48k if not for a few different scribbles on a chalk board. Jaz likely never thought he truly had it in the bag. So the regret for Mollie will be many orders of magnitude greater than Jaz's.

 

[Spymaster]

She never had £100k. She failed to win it.

No single Faithful can ever win the full pot. When it gets to 2 players the game ends, so either a traitor would win the lot, or 2 Faithfuls would share it.

 

[danny la rouge]

No single Faithful can ever win the full pot. When it gets to 2 players the game ends, so either a traitor would win the lot, or 2 Faithfuls would share it.

No, that’s a fair point, Arithmetic Man.

 

[Numbers]

Spoiler: Aussie spolier

Luke and Annabelle have this sorted - if they survive - great stuff. Traitors are shite.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Doing telly this morning..think she'll be OK...
Harry though not so sure...90k to basically permanently brand yourself as a panto villan

I hate panto but now you’ve said that, I am desperate to see either Harry or Paul play an old school pantomime baddie. Paul in particular would be superb. He’s already got the bow down.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

The Australian series is actually distressing me

 

[scifisam]

No single Faithful can ever win the full pot. When it gets to 2 players the game ends, so either a traitor would win the lot, or 2 Faithfuls would share it.

That's another unfair aspect of the show - it's harder for them to win, and then they can't win as much!

I guess it's not surprising that a show called Traitors is unfair, but it's SO unbalanced right now.

Mollie did make a silly decision at the end, but man, the stuff people are saying about her - and were saying before she made this decision, too. It's just a game! She got something wrong mainly because she's a nice person.

It'll probably blow over quickly, but from her POV it won't seem like it.